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FYI: If you use xTank, you can not use any of the "It's" plugins. [Locked] |
Arch_Magi  Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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FYI: If you use xTank, you can not use any of the "It's" plugins. |
Hamfast posted:
As for Arch-Magi choosing Eltank over Make-it, that is his choice, and that he has the honor to uninstall or not install the "It" plugins is praiseworthy... that he attacks the work of Gouru mitigates that praise.
Hey, I'm just trying to use public opinion to try to get a software developer to change their license agreement ... oh, say like, Gouru and when he used the "Decal is officially Dead" post to get Turbine to change their license agreement.
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<< Hey, I'm just trying to use public opinion to try to get a software developer to change their license agreement >>
Knowing Gouru, it ain't going to happen.
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Gouru wasn't using Public Opinion to attempt to get the CoC changed...
he was pointing out a fatal mistake in the CoC based on the wording that causes some problems for a LOT of people.
There is a difference between the innacurate wording of the CoC and Gouru not wanting his plugins used against his wishes.
And as Maddy said.. you aren't going to get him to change it regardless of how many people agree with you.
It's not about the public, it is about Gouru.. and until Gouru doesn't care about Combat Macroing, then his EULA will remain with that spirit in it.
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Arch_Magi Title: The Lord of Chaos
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Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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Well, the "mistake"t that Turbine made is another issue. IMO it wasn't a mistake. Turbine tried to change it and got spanked hard when people caught the change, then they backpeddled and said that they weren't going to change it at all. Sorry, that too is laughable. If they weren't going to change it at all, then why was anyone even messing with it in the first place.
But I digress.
Yes, it's Gouru's choice to word it like that. It's other peoples choice to ignore it too (even though it may be illegal). It is my choice to not use his stuff (I never have anyway). It is also my choice to point out this little tidbit to everyone here so they can be informed of the "possible violations" in using xTank and any of the It! programs.
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by all means.. spread the word.
I'm sure gouru would love it if more users were aware of their possible violation of his EULA.
Most users don't even know what his EULA says, so this is a step up in the right direction.
So thanks.. you're helping spread the word of his EULA.. I'm sure Gouru would be very appreciative (if he were here).
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Hazridi  Posts: 411
Registered: 2001-3-15 13:24:12
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Yeah, Gouru wants his users aware that if they are using both, they are breaking his EULA.
Maddy put it best -- "Knowing Gouru, it ain't gonna happen."
Turbine wasn't really swayed by public opinion, they were swayed by the fact that customers might LEAVE if they kept the COC the way it was. Gouru has no customers, so there is no lever to use to 'sway' him.
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Arch_Magi Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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Date Posted:
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FYI: If you use xTank, you can not use any of the "It's" plugins. |
Hazridi posted:
Turbine wasn't really swayed by public opinion, they were swayed by the fact that customers might LEAVE if they kept the COC the way it was.
That is what I ment.
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Hazridi Posts: 411
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FYI: If you use xTank, you can not use any of the "It's" plugins. |
So you knew this would be utterly ineffectual as anything other than an attention seeking ploy?
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Arch_Magi Title: The Lord of Chaos
Posts: 827
Registered: 2002-10-31 14:31:20
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FYI: If you use xTank, you can not use any of the "It's" plugins. |
Hazridi posted:
So you knew this would be utterly ineffectual as anything other than an attention seeking ploy?
No, I've actually gotten about a dozen PMs in the last hour talking about this and some people are saying "I don't care what he says, I'm still going to use it." and others are saying "What a complete <edit>, I'm uninstalling it now.".
Hey, I thought it was just Gouru making a statement about Decal and its license agreement. I was wrong. It's about his personal programs. Apparently I wasn't the only one unaware of Gouru's "license".
Oh well, I'm more than glad to do my part and help set people straight. Either use It! or xTank, but not both, because that would be a violation of the It! license.
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Actually, the more I think about it. I actually admire Gouru for this. I think he should take his personal conviction one step further and make his plugins "aware". What I mean by that is, if when you go into the game, and his programs are running, they will check for the existance of ElTank or LifeTank or other "bad programs" and if detected, they immediately drop you to the desktop, pop up a dialog box showing the license file violation and then prompt the user to make a choice ... to either uninstall ElTank/LifeTank or all the installed It! programs.
Now if he did that, I would have a new respect for Gouru and his principles.
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I'm sure Gouru will be glad for the extra attention. I think the only thing he'd want for his users more than awareness of the terms of his EULA, would be actual compliance with it (and of course, trouble-free operation of his plugins in a game-enhancing way).
-ken
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