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NonOffensiveName  Title: Touching people in special places all day long
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Wow even in 2012, you can shoot a gay kid in cold blood and get off almost scot-free for it. |
JoAyanami posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:JoAyanami posted:
You want him dead? That's sick and really messed up.
But its not sick and really messed up for a straight kid to be able to walk up to a gay kid and shoot him twice in the head? 
At 14 do you not know that its a bad thing to take a gun to school and shoot someone to death in premeditated cold blood? That seems more that just a simple "terrible mistake" or a "not good use of judgement" situation to me. As someone already pointed out, you can only blame other things(parents, the school, the victim) up to a point. Ultimately the decision to kill was his and he acted on that decision. Even for children there are consequences to their actions and unfortunately for him this is one he will be paying for well into his adulthood(although the price is not nearly high as he should've paid)
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_sooz_  Posts: 1,256
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Jezza_Belle posted:
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NonOffensiveName posted:
_sooz_ posted:
Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?
you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.
By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right.
Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.
Why oh why did you have to open up that can of worms? NON's responses already make little sense, now you're going to make it worse.
Because i wanted him to see how ridiculous it is to on the one hand fight for life and on the other, to campaign to end it. Of course, there is very little chance he will see that, as it is already set in his mind that he is right no matter what.
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_sooz_ posted:
Jezza_Belle posted:
_sooz_ posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:
_sooz_ posted:
Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?
you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.
By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right.
Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.
Why oh why did you have to open up that can of worms? NON's responses already make little sense, now you're going to make it worse.
Because i wanted him to see how ridiculous it is to on the one hand fight for life and on the other, to campaign to end it. Of course, there is very little chance he will see that, as it is already set in his mind that he is right no matter what.
and you knew before you made the post that it would make zero difference in his opinions, yet you decided to open that can of worms anyway. He already looks ridiculous for thinking we need to fry 14 year old kids, doesn't need any help.
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-Abysmal- Posts: 1,328
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NonOffensiveName posted:
but of thoe two I wouldn't have someone killed just because they made me feel uneasy in a sexual kind of way.
well i had no idea it was such a minimal thing!
OH WAIT A SECOND...NEITHER DO YOU!
it's a shame that some kid had to lose a good chunk of his life to stop this moron.
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NonOffensiveName Title: Touching people in special places all day long
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levgre posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:
levgre posted:
20 years in prison is on par for murder. Emotional motivations do not upgrade murders to first degree. Learn a little bit about the law, you nub.
Premeditation does though. So does the fact that he was charged with a hate crime. I think you should take some of your own advice "nub"
Pre-meditation, in a legal sense, is not as clear cut or easy to prove as you think. Especially when you have a stupid teenager who was being provoked. The defense could make an argument he was just bringing the gun to scare the person, or wasn't sure if he wanted to kill him or not. Okay, so add another year or two for a hate crime. You'd still be complaining. You want this upgraded to 1st degree murder, you want blood.
um it WAS first degree murder with a hate crime charge added on...thats what he was accused of in his trial. The only reason he got a reduced sentence was the jury didnt want to convict him because they made the victim out to be some kind of sex predator who deserved what he got. That led to a hung jury and they reduced the charges to get a conviction. I dont want blood I want justice for someone who was murdered in cold blood who didnt deserve to die.
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_sooz_ Posts: 1,256
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Jezza_Belle posted:
_sooz_ posted:
Jezza_Belle posted:
_sooz_ posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:
_sooz_ posted:
Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?
you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.
By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right.
Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.
Why oh why did you have to open up that can of worms? NON's responses already make little sense, now you're going to make it worse.
Because i wanted him to see how ridiculous it is to on the one hand fight for life and on the other, to campaign to end it. Of course, there is very little chance he will see that, as it is already set in his mind that he is right no matter what.
and you knew before you made the post that it would make zero difference in his opinions, yet you decided to open that can of worms anyway. He already looks ridiculous for thinking we need to fry 14 year old kids, doesn't need any help.
True. But hey, this is ACF! Bring your own worms, we have plenty of can-openers, right? 
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NonOffensiveName Title: Touching people in special places all day long
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_sooz_ posted:
Jezza_Belle posted:
_sooz_ posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:_sooz_ posted: Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?
you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.
By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right. Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.
Why oh why did you have to open up that can of worms? NON's responses already make little sense, now you're going to make it worse. Because i wanted him to see how ridiculous it is to on the one hand fight for life and on the other, to campaign to end it. Of course, there is very little chance he will see that, as it is already set in his mind that he is right no matter what. so lets put the shoe on the other foot as they say. What has a fetus done that was so heinous that it deserves to die just because irresponsible people want a quick fix to their "problem"?
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_sooz_ Posts: 1,256
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NonOffensiveName posted:
_sooz_ posted:
Jezza_Belle posted:
_sooz_ posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:_sooz_ posted: Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?
you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.
By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right. Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.
Why oh why did you have to open up that can of worms? NON's responses already make little sense, now you're going to make it worse. Because i wanted him to see how ridiculous it is to on the one hand fight for life and on the other, to campaign to end it. Of course, there is very little chance he will see that, as it is already set in his mind that he is right no matter what. so lets put the shoe on the other foot as they say. What has a fetus done that was so heinous that it deserves to die just because irresponsible people want a quick fix to their "problem"?
You and i arent going to get anywhere on this one, because i dont believe an embryo is "alive". I just wanted to point out that for someone who campaigns so fiercely for life, suddenly calling for one to be ended is a little odd.
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NonOffensiveName posted:
At 14 do you not know that its a bad thing to take a gun to school and shoot someone to death in premeditated cold blood? That seems more that just a simple "terrible mistake" or a "not good use of judgement" situation to me.
murder, sexual harassment...both are blatantly obvious...i guess one should register more than the other right?
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NonOffensiveName Title: Touching people in special places all day long
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_sooz_ posted:
NonOffensiveName posted:
_sooz_ posted:
Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?
you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.
By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right. Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.
it wasnt always legal to have an abortion...just because something is legal doesnt make it the right thing to do. Im not a strong advocate for the death penalty. It should be used with great caution. Most people deserve the right to have life. But when someone has done something to another person so heinous and there is not a shadow of doubt that they are guilty then they forfeit their right to continue that life such as in this case.
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