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_sooz_  4 stars
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Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?

you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.

By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right. Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.

it wasnt always legal to have an abortion...just because something is legal doesnt make it the right thing to do. Im not a strong advocate for the death penalty. It should be used with great caution. Most people deserve the right to have life. But when someone has done something to another person so heinous and there is not a shadow of doubt that they are guilty then they forfeit their right to continue that life such as in this case.



Wasnt the person in question like 13 when it happened? (i didnt read the article, just the responses here, so correct me if im wrong) If so, that is a CHILD. 21 years in prison is going to ruin that kids life, far worse than the death penalty.

Plus i dont think i could ever, in good conscience, advocate that a kid be killed.

 

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NonOffensiveName  3 stars
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At 14 do you not know that its a bad thing to take a gun to school and shoot someone to death in premeditated cold blood? That seems more that just a simple "terrible mistake" or a "not good use of judgement" situation to me.

murder, sexual harassment...both are blatantly obvious...i guess one should register more than the other right?

I never said or even implied that. And Ive already said the gay kid was wrong for sexually harassing the straight kid, what more do you want? Its still not a justification for murdering the gay kid.

 

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-Abysmal-  4 stars
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Registered: 2000-12-20 06:45:24
NonOffensiveName posted:

-Abysmal- posted:

NonOffensiveName posted:

At 14 do you not know that its a bad thing to take a gun to school and shoot someone to death in premeditated cold blood? That seems more that just a simple "terrible mistake" or a "not good use of judgement" situation to me.

murder, sexual harassment...both are blatantly obvious...i guess one should register more than the other right?

I never said or even implied that. And Ive already said the gay kid was wrong for sexually harassing the straight kid, what more do you want? Its still not a justification for murdering the gay kid.



why cant we focus on the horrible things the gay kid did?
why is it all about the other victim in this?

 

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Jezza_Belle  4 stars
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NonOffensiveName posted:

_sooz_ posted:

NonOffensiveName posted:

_sooz_ posted:

Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?

you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.

By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right. Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.

it wasnt always legal to have an abortion...just because something is legal doesnt make it the right thing to do. Im not a strong advocate for the death penalty. It should be used with great caution. Most people deserve the right to have life. But when someone has done something to another person so heinous and there is not a shadow of doubt that they are guilty then they forfeit their right to continue that life such as in this case.



people get shot every day, you think this case is so heinous because you identify with it. There are people who do MUCH worse things that don't get the death penalty. IMO, this kid at least had a reason for what he did, it wasn't just blind violence.

 

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NonOffensiveName  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-10-7 19:39:14
_sooz_ posted:

NonOffensiveName posted:

_sooz_ posted:

NonOffensiveName posted:
_sooz_ posted: Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?

you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.

By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right. Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.

it wasnt always legal to have an abortion...just because something is legal doesnt make it the right thing to do. Im not a strong advocate for the death penalty. It should be used with great caution. Most people deserve the right to have life. But when someone has done something to another person so heinous and there is not a shadow of doubt that they are guilty then they forfeit their right to continue that life such as in this case. Wasnt the person in question like 13 when it happened? If so, that is a CHILD. 21 years in prison is going to ruin that kids life, far worse than the death penalty. Plus i dont think i could ever, in good conscience, advocate that a kid be killed. but you could, in good conscience, advocate for a kid thats still in the womb who hasnt committed murder or any other crime to be killed? LOL talk about hypocrisy... I would've had no problem if they wanted to wait til he was 18 to fry him up.

 

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-Abysmal-  4 stars
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OH, and the Hate Crime aspect...just STFU with it already.
you are blinded with how pathetic it is.

i have an inmate that works for me that has a hate crime charge.

he killed the black guy that brutally raped his sister.
color had NOTHING to do with it, but caught the charge.

 

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_sooz_  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-12-4 11:40:44
NonOffensiveName posted:

_sooz_ posted:

NonOffensiveName posted:

_sooz_ posted:

NonOffensiveName posted:
_sooz_ posted: Im only here to ask you one question: So abortion is "murder", but the death penalty is just fine and dandy?

you forfeit your right to life when you forcably and knowingly take the life of another...thats why abortion IS murder.

By your logic, those who perform the death sentence are also murderers. They are forcibly and knowingly taking another's life. Where does it end? Two wrongs never make a right. Also, the definition of murder is to illegally kill something. Abortion is legal, therefore not murder.

it wasnt always legal to have an abortion...just because something is legal doesnt make it the right thing to do. Im not a strong advocate for the death penalty. It should be used with great caution. Most people deserve the right to have life. But when someone has done something to another person so heinous and there is not a shadow of doubt that they are guilty then they forfeit their right to continue that life such as in this case. Wasnt the person in question like 13 when it happened? If so, that is a CHILD. 21 years in prison is going to ruin that kids life, far worse than the death penalty. Plus i dont think i could ever, in good conscience, advocate that a kid be killed. but you could, in good conscience, advocate for a kid thats still in the womb who hasnt committed murder or any other crime to be killed? LOL talk about hypocrisy... I would've had no problem if they wanted to wait til he was 18 to fry him up.



Like i said, you and i can fight it out all we want, but since our definitions of when life begins are different, we're never going to agree. Personally i think you are a hypocrite just as much as you think me one.

Also, be honest. Would you care if this was a straight kid who shot another straight kid for harrassing him? Like Jezza said, you only care because you identify with it. If the kid hadnt been gay, you wouldnt have given a toss.

 

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NonOffensiveName  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-10-7 19:39:14
-Abysmal- posted:

NonOffensiveName posted:

-Abysmal- posted:

NonOffensiveName posted:
At 14 do you not know that its a bad thing to take a gun to school and shoot someone to death in premeditated cold blood? That seems more that just a simple "terrible mistake" or a "not good use of judgement" situation to me.

murder, sexual harassment...both are blatantly obvious...i guess one should register more than the other right?

I never said or even implied that. And Ive already said the gay kid was wrong for sexually harassing the straight kid, what more do you want? Its still not a justification for murdering the gay kid.

why cant we focus on the horrible things the gay kid did? why is it all about the other victim in this? Because the "other victim" decided to pick up a gun and shoot the real victim in all of this. Im surprised some of you havent said, "Aww the poor lil underdeveloped 14 year old straight psychopath decided to shoot someone, isnt he so cute?" Anyways you just keep basically asking the same question over and over again without making a point so Im guessing youre trolling... lol

 

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Aethelgrin  1 star
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This thread is so bad, it's bad FOR you.

 

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NonOffensiveName  3 stars
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OH, and the Hate Crime aspect...just STFU with it already. you are blinded with how pathetic it is. i have an inmate that works for me that has a hate crime charge. he killed the black guy that brutally raped his sister. color had NOTHING to do with it, but caught the charge.

I havent really even said anything about the hate crime aspect of it...Gay straight bi or whatever Im more pissed about the fact that he got away with PREMEDITATED murder with a 21 year sentence instead of being fried or life in prison without parole. The only bias I have mentioned is the one the jury had against the victim since he was demonized as a sex predator that the helpless lil 14 year old just couldnt fight off anymore.(Im sorry but sexual harassment STILL isnt a justification for murder no matter how bad it is - even if it messes you up in the head which I know it can you can get counselling or something - there is no amount of counselling that will help you if you're shot in the back of the head!)

 

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