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Elmador_MoK  Title: Voice of Mostly-Reason
Posts: 166
Registered: 2002-6-26 14:35:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Immortal_Haze posted:
Elmador_MoK posted:
More people are NOT like you. Only about 18% of Americans have illegally downloaded movies:
http://www.srgnet.com/pdf/Movie%20File-Sharing%20Booming%20Release%20Jan%2024%2007%20Final.pdf
I bet you would be content still if someone, who, you know, doesn't care about your "morals" stole your fine shelf of material goods. Maybe someone who doesn't care, and just does what they want to do will beat the crap out of on the street one night for kicks. They'll be cool with their decision too. Your statement sounds exactly like sociopaths.
Confused, it states:
"32 million Americans aged 12+ (18% of the US online population)downloaded a full-length movie at some point in the past – 20 million of these are regulars, having downloaded in the last month."
Does not say that these were all illegal downloads. Also does not account for people that obtained ripped copies from other sources.
Here is the article I pulled it from, that mentions (but doesn't link so be wary of it I guess) the guys who did the study saying it is about pirated movies.
http://torrentfreak.com/more-than-25-million-americans-pirate-movies/
Here is another study that clocks it in at about 21% of the adult population, complete with their methodology.
http://global.bsa.org/idcglobalstudy2007/
Summary of Findings:
http://global.bsa.org/idcglobalstudy2007/studies/summaryfindings_globalstudy07.pdf
But like all criminal thinking, those that do it think they are in the majority and justified.
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Jezza_Belle  Title: =^.^=
Posts: 2,771
Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
"Why I Pirate" - An Open Letter to Content Creators (LONG read) |
Elmador_MoK posted:
Immortal_Haze posted:
Elmador_MoK posted:
More people are NOT like you. Only about 18% of Americans have illegally downloaded movies:
http://www.srgnet.com/pdf/Movie%20File-Sharing%20Booming%20Release%20Jan%2024%2007%20Final.pdf
I bet you would be content still if someone, who, you know, doesn't care about your "morals" stole your fine shelf of material goods. Maybe someone who doesn't care, and just does what they want to do will beat the crap out of on the street one night for kicks. They'll be cool with their decision too. Your statement sounds exactly like sociopaths.
Confused, it states:
"32 million Americans aged 12+ (18% of the US online population)downloaded a full-length movie at some point in the past – 20 million of these are regulars, having downloaded in the last month."
Does not say that these were all illegal downloads. Also does not account for people that obtained ripped copies from other sources.
Here is the article I pulled it from, that mentions (but doesn't link so be wary of it I guess) the guys who did the study saying it is about pirated movies.
http://torrentfreak.com/more-than-25-million-americans-pirate-movies/
Here is another study that clocks it in at about 21% of the adult population, complete with their methodology.
http://global.bsa.org/idcglobalstudy2007/
Summary of Findings:
http://global.bsa.org/idcglobalstudy2007/studies/summaryfindings_globalstudy07.pdf
But like all criminal thinking, those that do it think they are in the majority and justified.
When you subtract everyone boomer age and over, and anyone in the deep south... what's the percentage then?
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Downloading copies of media isn't stealing, it's copyright infringement.
There is no physical loss to anyone, digital copies aren't a limited resource that cost the content creator any money, time, or effort when they were produced.
Comparing that to taking unlawful possession of a physical object is silly. Youtube isn't stealing an artists music when they allow millions of people to listen to it by clicking. It's not like they have the musician in a cage somewhere and have to hit them with a cattle prod and make them perform it every time someone watches one of their videos.
The vast majority of people who watch a video online, are never going to buy a physical or digital copy of that video...but some are going to do so. And many more are going to become fans and tell others about them, go to see their live shows, buy a tshirt, or whatever. It generates new fans, which in turn, generates profits for the artist...if they aren't stupid and if they don't spend more time crying about people seeing their stuff for free than turning all that free publicity into cash.
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Motar98  Title: cool guy
Posts: 363
Registered: 2003-1-4 17:18:32
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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if it was as easy to rob banks as it is steal music, then i would be a bank robber. but i have no sympathy for banks or music corporations, i hate em both
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^=
Posts: 2,771
Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
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Date Posted:
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Ptilk posted:
Downloading copies of media isn't stealing, it's copyright infringement.
There is no physical loss to anyone, digital copies aren't a limited resource that cost the content creator any money, time, or effort when they were produced.
Comparing that to taking unlawful possession of a physical object is silly. Youtube isn't stealing an artists music when they allow millions of people to listen to it by clicking. It's not like they have the musician in a cage somewhere and have to hit them with a cattle prod and make them perform it every time someone watches one of their videos.
The vast majority of people who watch a video online, are never going to buy a physical or digital copy of that video...but some are going to do so. And many more are going to become fans and tell others about them, go to see their live shows, buy a tshirt, or whatever. It generates new fans, which in turn, generates profits for the artist...if they aren't stupid and if they don't spend more time crying about people seeing their stuff for free than turning all that free publicity into cash.
now THAT is a service I would pay for!
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FineYoungCannibals Title: Top of the food chain
Posts: 1,620
Registered: 2003-7-14 19:17:12
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
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that's old world thinking
if you are right why is it not legal?
Motar98 posted:
if it was as easy to rob banks as it is steal music, then i would be a bank robber. but i have no sympathy for banks or music corporations, i hate em both
very easy, you walk in, give the teller a note you walk out, no software to dl
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Here's a situation for ya.
I recently downloaded the entire first season of Game of Thrones.
Now, I pay for HBO so I had paid for the show already. I was more than willing to purchase a box set of the season....but it's not available. Anywhere. I want to watch the season again. It's that good.
So I download it for free.
Did I take money out of HBO or the producers hands by doing so? They aren't selling it, I already paid for it, but do you "it's STEALING!!11!!!" people still think I "stole" from them?
If so, how? And what damage did I do to their income by doing so?
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^=
Posts: 2,771
Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
"Why I Pirate" - An Open Letter to Content Creators (LONG read) |
Ptilk posted:
Here's a situation for ya.
I recently downloaded the entire first season of Game of Thrones.
Now, I pay for HBO so I had paid for the show already. I was more than willing to purchase a box set of the season....but it's not available. Anywhere. I want to watch the season again. It's that good.
So I download it for free.
Did I take money out of HBO or the producers hands by doing so? They aren't selling it, I already paid for it, but do you "it's STEALING!!11!!!" people still think I "stole" from them?
If so, how? And what damage did I do to their income by doing so?
Do you have access to HBO-GO through your cable provider? They had the full season available streaming last time I checked.
Edit: and no, I don't consider it stealing or even wrong in any way. You already paid for the content, you're just receiving it in a different format.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
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Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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Yep. But HBO-GO SUCKS. I mean...really sucks. Horrible service.
And I want to watch it on my TV that isn't hooked up to my cable system. It's the old rear projection big screen monstrosity in my guest house.
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FineYoungCannibals Title: Top of the food chain
Posts: 1,620
Registered: 2003-7-14 19:17:12
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
"Why I Pirate" - An Open Letter to Content Creators (LONG read) |
Ptilk posted:
Here's a situation for ya.
I recently downloaded the entire first season of Game of Thrones.
Now, I pay for HBO so I had paid for the show already. I was more than willing to purchase a box set of the season....but it's not available. Anywhere. I want to watch the season again. It's that good.
So I download it for free.
Did I take money out of HBO or the producers hands by doing so? They aren't selling it, I already paid for it, but do you "it's STEALING!!11!!!" people still think I "stole" from them?
If so, how? And what damage did I do to their income by doing so?
thief
http://www.amazon.ca/Game-Thrones-Complete-First-Season/dp/B002IFT1ZA
it's even on sale with free shipping in Canada
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