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"Why I Pirate" - An Open Letter to Content Creators (LONG read) [Locked] |
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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"Why I Pirate" - An Open Letter to Content Creators (LONG read) |
I think the overall point he makes is very true. Now that the ability to obtain things easily is out there, the power shift has gone from the producer to the consumer. The reality is the producers of the content are fighting a 100% losing battle. They've chosen to stay the course and fight, which further alienates the population because the methods they are choosing do more harm to those that don't pirate than the actual pirates. I'm sorry, if you created recorded media (being music, books, games, etc), it WILL be easily pirated. Continuing to focus on putting more protections on the media that only inconvenience your paying customers is incredibly shortsighted, in my opinion.
It's not mystery - people that habitually pirate are probably going to habitually pirate. The producers do nothing good by trying to attack this group other than piss off paying customers. If they changed their focus to zero in on what would turn the "occasional" pirate into a buyer, they would probably surprise themselves on how well things would go.
I can tell you as someone that does not pirate anything - putting more DRM bulls*** on your media ensures my money stays in my account. I can quite easily say I'm not buying a CD because it has DRM that ensures I can't copy it.
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Elmador_MoK  Title: Voice of Mostly-Reason
Posts: 166
Registered: 2002-6-26 14:35:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Ptilk posted:
I agree with most of what he wrote.
In short, get with the program. I couldn't care less about anyone's "moral" take on the issue. Your "morals" mean nothing to me. I'm doing what I want and enjoying what I want the way I want and when I want it.
If you think that's bad. I don't give a damn. And in reality, more people are like me than are like you. A new business model is in effect and it's only going to keep moving more towards my way of thinking than yours. There is plenty of money to be made off of a business plan that incorporates free distribution and not creating a product full of crap that no one wants layered over the stuff they do want.
Businesses and artists who get this....will prosper. Others will spend their time qq'ing and waste the opportunity. Their decision. I've made mine, and I'm quite content with it.
More people are NOT like you. Only about 18% of Americans have illegally downloaded movies:
http://www.srgnet.com/pdf/Movie%20File-Sharing%20Booming%20Release%20Jan%2024%2007%20Final.pdf
I bet you would be content still if someone, who, you know, doesn't care about your "morals" stole your fine shelf of material goods. Maybe someone who doesn't care, and just does what they want to do will beat the crap out of on the street one night for kicks. They'll be cool with their decision too. Your statement sounds exactly like sociopaths.
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Jezza_Belle  Title: =^.^=
Posts: 2,771
Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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Ptilk posted:
I agree with most of what he wrote.
I wont buy anything with stupid DRM or that requires me to install stupid software just to use it. I would happily buy stuff if it was packaged in the same, very usable and easy to use format that pirates package it in, and if it was available when the pirated version was...not 10 months later, in some god awful package that includes stupid crap that I have to wade thru to get to what I want.
I couldn't give a crap about price for the most part, if I like something, I'll buy it. But I want to buy it when I want, in the version I want, and use it like I want..not how someone else decides I should be able to do so.
I download whatever I feel like. If I like the stuff, I'll buy physical copies cause I like them. I like to look over on the shelf and see them, makes me happy. I will probably never open the copy, but I still buy it. Because I want to support the people who make the stuff I like.
The vast majority of entertainment (movies, games, books) I have purchased in the past 5 years...I pirated before I purchased. If I can't find a pirate copy, I figure it sucks so much no one bothered. I'm not going to drop 25 bucks on a book that I might not like anymore. Just never going to happen. I'll download it, then if I like it...I buy it. Hell, even if I hate it....I will end up buying it at times, just to support the person who wrote it in hopes that their future stuff wont suck (George R.R. Martin and Boring with Dragons comes to mind here).
In short, get with the program. I couldn't care less about anyone's "moral" take on the issue. Your "morals" mean nothing to me. I'm doing what I want and enjoying what I want the way I want and when I want it.
If you think that's bad. I don't give a damn. And in reality, more people are like me than are like you. A new business model is in effect and it's only going to keep moving more towards my way of thinking than yours. There is plenty of money to be made off of a business plan that incorporates free distribution and not creating a product full of crap that no one wants layered over the stuff they do want.
Businesses and artists who get this....will prosper. Others will spend their time qq'ing and waste the opportunity. Their decision. I've made mine, and I'm quite content with it.
it only makes sense to widen the base of "free to play" business model, and then charge for add ons or cool stuff. Its just like you said, you give them something, they like it, they want more and are willing to pay for it. Everyone is happy, I'm not buying a full expansion on a game I just bought and I'm not sure about, I don't have to worry about subscribing to it... I can purchase a piece here and there so I can do the quests I want, and leave the ones I couldn't care less about.
Music can work the same way. I'll give everyone a lower quality version of my album in MP3, and sell DTS/HD stuff on CD. Now that you're listening to my band, and requesting us on the radio, we're getting gigs are bars and we're selling t-shirts and making more money because we're more popular than we would have been if we just sold our CDs to people.
This is where quality comes into play, if you're giving the people what they want, they're more willing to give you money for it.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
"Why I Pirate" - An Open Letter to Content Creators (LONG read) |
Elmador_MoK posted:
More people are NOT like you. Only about 18% of Americans have illegally downloaded movies:
http://www.srgnet.com/pdf/Movie%20File-Sharing%20Booming%20Release%20Jan%2024%2007%20Final.pdf
I bet you would be content still if someone, who, you know, doesn't care about your "morals" stole your fine shelf of material goods. Maybe someone who doesn't care, and just does what they want to do will beat the crap out of on the street one night for kicks. They'll be cool with their decision too. Your statement sounds exactly like sociopaths.
Confused, it states:
"32 million Americans aged 12+ (18% of the US online population)downloaded a full-length movie at some point in the past – 20 million of these are regulars, having downloaded in the last month."
Does not say that these were all illegal downloads. Also does not account for people that obtained ripped copies from other sources.
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^=
Posts: 2,771
Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
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Immortal_Haze posted:
Elmador_MoK posted:
More people are NOT like you. Only about 18% of Americans have illegally downloaded movies:
http://www.srgnet.com/pdf/Movie%20File-Sharing%20Booming%20Release%20Jan%2024%2007%20Final.pdf
I bet you would be content still if someone, who, you know, doesn't care about your "morals" stole your fine shelf of material goods. Maybe someone who doesn't care, and just does what they want to do will beat the crap out of on the street one night for kicks. They'll be cool with their decision too. Your statement sounds exactly like sociopaths.
Confused, it states:
"32 million Americans aged 12+ (18% of the US online population)downloaded a full-length movie at some point in the past – 20 million of these are regulars, having downloaded in the last month."
Does not say that these were all illegal downloads. Also does not account for people that obtained ripped copies from other sources.
Nor does it account for audiobooks, ebooks, music, apps, games, roms, images, graphics, etc...
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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I've spent thousands of dollars a year on books for decades. I've bought multiple books every week, year in and out, for as long as I can remember.
I have thousands of ebooks at this time, but I also spend more on books now than I did before I ever pirated the first one. If I really like a book that I download, I'll go online and order every other book they ever wrote and happily pay for them (I dropped over 4K at B&N.com last year alone) I would have never bought a single thing from them if I wouldn't have gotten that first book for free.
I love Steam. I have hundreds of games in my account on there, many of which I have never played. I tend to buy the studio bundles that include every game by whatever studio involved. Hell, I pirated Dragon Age and played for a couple of days....then bought 4 copies to send to friends and one for myself, just so everyone I knew could enjoy the game.
Every pirated copy isn't a lost sale, it's a potential sale they would have never made in the first place as I didn't care enough to drop cash on your stuff....until I experienced it.
I spend WAAAAAY more money on various entertainment choices (movies, games, books) now...than I did before I hoisted the Jolly Roger.
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aon_mixed Title:
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Posts: 2,317
Registered: 2002-8-19 07:30:30
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
"Why I Pirate" - An Open Letter to Content Creators (LONG read) |
i think part of the problem in the USA is that so many 'artists' overvalue their 'art' hence the excessive cost... i think it's a bit shortsighted to charge $13 for a Best of the FatBoys cd and charge the same $13 for some other new work that is of quality.
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Talehon69  Title: Anonymous Entity
Posts: 525
Registered: 2002-12-11 10:09:58
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
Subject:
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If I wasn't going to purchase something, and pirate it instead, is it still a "lost sale"?
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Jezza_Belle Title: =^.^=
Posts: 2,771
Registered: 2001-2-24 02:29:30
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Date Posted:
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Talehon69 posted:
If I wasn't going to purchase something, and pirate it instead, is it still a "lost sale"?
Nope
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FineYoungCannibals Title: Top of the food chain
Posts: 1,620
Registered: 2003-7-14 19:17:12
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:01am
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no Ptilk, you can't steal a car, drive it around for a few days and then buy four cars for your friends and think it's ok
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