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Sith_Mauler  Posts: 1,851
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Could I destroy the entire Roman Empire if I traveled back in time with with a modern Marine infantr |
levgre posted:
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history shows every time a legion was caught unprepared for battle, they where slaughtered Hannibal did it, the Huns and then the Gauls all learned to beat the Romans, you cant let them form up.
Any army caught unprepared is at a severe disadvantage, regardless of formation. The cause of defeat would not be their formation tactics.
no that is war there is no rules that say hey I am going to let you form your army up so you can just use zerg tactics.
ask the British how mass formations worked out for them.
The vast majority of the time the army would be prepped with battle lines, and soldiers would be close enough to get into battle formation within a very short time. You use scouting and see the thousands of men in the distance.
Properly forming an army up is little issue with the quality of command they had. Victory/defeat would result from other factors. And saying they just used zerg tactics makes you sound really ignorant.
what else do you call it when you send massed formations into each other?
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Sith_Mauler posted:
a spotter with a set of binoculars a compass and a map with a grid system.
like they did in the old days.
you act like the military has to have gps to fight a war.
seriously you are the fool in the thread.
I dont think that they need GPS to fight a war, I think that without GPS and modern communications though its going to GREATLY decrease their abilities though. You apparently disagree but you are a General after all. Tell us oh great and might military mind how exactly they are aiming 20 miles out at horses moving with accuracy without these worthless tools?
Basically you figure the Romans will just stand there all still while they shell them? I can see how you got your stars oh brilliant military mind.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
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Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
a spotter with a set of binoculars a compass and a map with a grid system.
like they did in the old days.
you act like the military has to have gps to fight a war.
seriously you are the fool in the thread.
I dont think that they need GPS to fight a war, I think that without GPS and modern communications though its going to GREATLY decrease their abilities though. You apparently disagree but you are a General after all. Tell us oh great and might military mind how exactly they are aiming 20 miles out at horses moving with accuracy without these worthless tools?
Because a Roman legion is roughly 5000+ men all marching in columns. 5000 men marching around in columns/formations is like shooting fish in the barrel for a USMC arty crew.
and line of sight radios are all the comm's they need.
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levgre  Posts: 606
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Not a zerg rush, as the tactics would be varied and precise, and not just involve infantry. Battles would be won by proper maneuvering, formations, and communication.
They were closer to chess matches than zerg rushes. The Romans won precisely because they didn't use zerg rushes.
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LOS comms arent even used that much, what with the advent of man-packed repeaters set on top of hills or mountains, signals can be relayed for hundreds of miles under the right environmental conditions
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
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levgre posted:
Not a zerg rush, as the tactics would be varied and precise, and not just involve infantry. Battles would be won by proper maneuvering, formations, and communication.
They were closer to chess matches than zerg rushes.
when facing a military of equal tech, yes but they have to close to melee range to fight.
not when your fighting a bunch of Marines with modern weaponry.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndh3b9wC-A0
roman legion marching into battle.
I am not knocking the Romans at the time they where they badass's on the block.
However they would get raped trying to fight Marines like that.
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levgre Posts: 606
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Yup and obviously they would not march up in tight formations against an opponent with much longer range and area weapons. They'd have a couple units slaughtered at the most and they'd find out it did not work.
Not one person with knowledge is saying the Romans would win battles against such superior firepower. But the Romans knew how to properly plan a war and adjust to their opponents.
I'm done discussing this aspect.. Either you are trolling or you are extremely naive on this topic.
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uglydwarf  Posts: 129
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it's called planning in advance. indirect arty fire has been used since WW1. arty does not need GPS to work. a compass and a map is all you need. you scout the area. the arty troops DO know what the ballistic properties of their weapons are, and can calculate how to fire them to hit where they want them to. as for commo- it's called a heliograph, and morse code. scout sees approaching army. sends morse msg back with location, size, direction, and speed to HQ. "grp size 3, location R, speed 4, heading 214 deg." just that much info could only need 4 3 letter groups to send. the arty officer looks at his map sees where location R is, and from there it is easy to figure out where to fire at.
Cuttlery posted:
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2 miles cutt arty has a range of 20 miles.
they would die before they even saw what shot them.
And how exactly oh great general and military mind is artillery going to aim at anything from that far out with no communications, no GPS. They just going to plant it and randomly fire? Even better for the Romans if thats the case. You are making this easy for them.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndh3b9wC-A0
roman legion marching into battle.
I am not knocking the Romans at the time they where they badass's on the block.
However they would get raped trying to fight Marines like that.
Soooooo you think they wouldnt change tactics after the first time? Seriously, you werent in the military.
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