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Sith_Mauler  Posts: 1,851
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levgre posted:
Yup and obviously they would not march up in tight formations against an opponent with much longer range and area weapons. They'd have a couple units slaughtered at the most and they'd find out it did not work.
Not one person with knowledge is saying the Romans would win battles against such superior firepower. But the Romans knew how to properly plan a war and adjust to their opponents.
I'm done discussing this aspect.. Either you are trolling or you are extremely naive on this topic.
Then what happens after attack and attack fails because, you are so far out teched that any tactic is useless?
Those legionaries that you keep ordering to their deaths are men and like any man they are going to loose hope and once hope is gone,then so goes morale. When that happens any hope for a cohesive effective force is gone.
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uglydwarf posted:
it's called planning in advance. indirect arty fire has been used since WW1. arty does not need GPS to work. a compass and a map is all you need. you scout the area. the arty troops DO know what the ballistic properties of their weapons are, and can calculate how to fire them to hit where they want them to. as for commo- it's called a heliograph, and morse code. scout sees approaching army. sends morse msg back with location, size, direction, and speed to HQ. "grp size 3, location R, speed 4, heading 214 deg." just that much info could only need 4 3 letter groups to send. the arty officer looks at his map sees where location R is, and from there it is easy to figure out where to fire.
Thats fine and dandy, but 1) no map, they probably wouldnt know exactly where they were and mapping wasnt accurate back then. 2) Again, after the first time the Romans arent just going to stand there, they are going to get mobile and move into small mobile groups.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
Then what happens after attack and attack fails because, you are so far out teched that any tactic is useless?
You think any tactic is useless because you cant wrap your mind around that the Romans would use any tactic but marching in a straight line in a large group. You think some of the greatest military minds in warfare history would not adapt.
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Also Marines are trained and equipped for night combat.
Romans sleep in their camps at night.
Let them march up and make camp, then at dark fall unleash hell and destruction upon them.
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Cuttlery posted:
uglydwarf posted:
it's called planning in advance. indirect arty fire has been used since WW1. arty does not need GPS to work. a compass and a map is all you need. you scout the area. the arty troops DO know what the ballistic properties of their weapons are, and can calculate how to fire them to hit where they want them to. as for commo- it's called a heliograph, and morse code. scout sees approaching army. sends morse msg back with location, size, direction, and speed to HQ. "grp size 3, location R, speed 4, heading 214 deg." just that much info could only need 4 3 letter groups to send. the arty officer looks at his map sees where location R is, and from there it is easy to figure out where to fire.
Thats fine and dandy, but 1) no map, they probably wouldnt know exactly where they were and mapping wasnt accurate back then. 2) Again, after the first time the Romans arent just going to stand there, they are going to get mobile and move into small mobile groups.
intel specialist's are trained on how to draw maps.
and these marines have helo's
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Sith_Mauler posted:
Also Marines are trained and equipped for night combat.
Romans sleep in their camps at night.
Let them march up and make camp, then at dark fall unless hell and destruction upon them.
The Romans would never think to use advance scouts, you are brilliant! They'd also never change tactics after this happened once! I can see how you made general.
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I think it all boils down to Command and Control, the jarheads can fight on multiple fronts with comms and competent leadership
the romans probably could fight on multiple fronts, but i dont have any idea what forms of comms they would use that did not require flashing a light off of brass or a mirror
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Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
Also Marines are trained and equipped for night combat.
Romans sleep in their camps at night.
Let them march up and make camp, then at dark fall unless hell and destruction upon them.
The Romans would never think to use advance scouts, you are brilliant! They'd also never change tactics after this happened once! I can see how you made general.
all you need was once.
the Romans are clueless and could not possibly even understand your capability, so they would set up camp as normal.
unleashing a night attack that would completely wipe out a Roman camp of say 5 legions for example would be a act of god.
what would the Romans do? they would probably bow to their new gods.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
Cuttlery posted:
uglydwarf posted:
it's called planning in advance. indirect arty fire has been used since WW1. arty does not need GPS to work. a compass and a map is all you need. you scout the area. the arty troops DO know what the ballistic properties of their weapons are, and can calculate how to fire them to hit where they want them to. as for commo- it's called a heliograph, and morse code. scout sees approaching army. sends morse msg back with location, size, direction, and speed to HQ. "grp size 3, location R, speed 4, heading 214 deg." just that much info could only need 4 3 letter groups to send. the arty officer looks at his map sees where location R is, and from there it is easy to figure out where to fire.
Thats fine and dandy, but 1) no map, they probably wouldnt know exactly where they were and mapping wasnt accurate back then. 2) Again, after the first time the Romans arent just going to stand there, they are going to get mobile and move into small mobile groups.
intel specialist's are trained on how to draw maps.
and these marines have helo's
Seriously what did you do in the military lol? This is awesomely funny. So far we are concluding from your brilliant military stragety that we are drawing a map, from 20 miles away. The Romans are obviously never moving because that'd be dumb. And they'd never change tactics because why on earth would anyone do that.
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Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
Then what happens after attack and attack fails because, you are so far out teched that any tactic is useless?
You think any tactic is useless because you cant wrap your mind around that the Romans would use any tactic but marching in a straight line in a large group. You think some of the greatest military minds in warfare history would not adapt.
and you think every legion was lead by Caesar type character or something?
not even Roman general had a brilliant military mind.
generals where members of the elite ruling class and those positions was filled by political appointment.
there where more generals leading legions that was doing it just to the check in the box needed to move up the Roman hierarchy.
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