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uglydwarf  Posts: 129
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Could I destroy the entire Roman Empire if I traveled back in time with with a modern Marine infantr |
that's when you break out the company strength roman hating groups of locals that you trained how to use the cap and ball rifled muskets, or single shot breechloaders your machine shop made using biodiesel fueled generators, led by marine NCOs to go after the smaller groups of romans. as for the map issues- what's to say the smart marine CO hasn't had his engineer troops out there, mapping the area, instead of relying on the local's idea of maps? it IS possible to create maps useing the tools that the engineer detachment would have for surveying and building bridges or gun emplacements. after all, people have been making accurate maps without the use of GPS or electricity for hundreds of years.
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uglydwarf posted:
it's called planning in advance. indirect arty fire has been used since WW1. arty does not need GPS to work. a compass and a map is all you need. you scout the area. the arty troops DO know what the ballistic properties of their weapons are, and can calculate how to fire them to hit where they want them to. as for commo- it's called a heliograph, and morse code. scout sees approaching army. sends morse msg back with location, size, direction, and speed to HQ. "grp size 3, location R, speed 4, heading 214 deg." just that much info could only need 4 3 letter groups to send. the arty officer looks at his map sees where location R is, and from there it is easy to figure out where to fire.
Thats fine and dandy, but 1) no map, they probably wouldnt know exactly where they were and mapping wasnt accurate back then. 2) Again, after the first time the Romans arent just going to stand there, they are going to get mobile and move into small mobile groups.
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They'd probably be in shock from the power of my boom stick and M60 Patton i rolled in on
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
Registered: 2002-12-21 13:40:03
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Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
Cuttlery posted:
uglydwarf posted:
it's called planning in advance. indirect arty fire has been used since WW1. arty does not need GPS to work. a compass and a map is all you need. you scout the area. the arty troops DO know what the ballistic properties of their weapons are, and can calculate how to fire them to hit where they want them to. as for commo- it's called a heliograph, and morse code. scout sees approaching army. sends morse msg back with location, size, direction, and speed to HQ. "grp size 3, location R, speed 4, heading 214 deg." just that much info could only need 4 3 letter groups to send. the arty officer looks at his map sees where location R is, and from there it is easy to figure out where to fire.
Thats fine and dandy, but 1) no map, they probably wouldnt know exactly where they were and mapping wasnt accurate back then. 2) Again, after the first time the Romans arent just going to stand there, they are going to get mobile and move into small mobile groups.
intel specialist's are trained on how to draw maps.
and these marines have helo's
Seriously what did you do in the military lol? This is awesomely funny. So far we are concluding from your brilliant military stragety that we are drawing a map, from 20 miles away. The Romans are obviously never moving because that'd be dumb. And they'd never change tactics because why on earth would anyone do that.
no the helo goes flying they take some aerial photos's. those are given to the intel specialists and they draw a map. they make copies to share,and as long as everybody uses a copy of the same map, everything works out.
really is that to hard to comprehend?
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Cuttlery Title: Wanna see what you missed?
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Sith_Mauler posted:
and you think every legion was lead by Caesar type character or something?
not even Roman general had a brilliant military mind.
generals where members of the elite ruling class and those positions was filled by political appointment.
there where more generals leading legions that was doing it just to the check in the box needed to move up the Roman hierarchy.
There isnt a single Roman general that was as stupid as you seem to think they are. Almost no one here has military training (yourself included obviously) and there isnt a single person on this board who is dumb enough to use the tactics that you are suggesting that the Romans would use in getting slaughtered.
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Cuttlery Title: Wanna see what you missed?
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Sith_Mauler posted:
no the helo goes flying they take some aerial photos's. those are given to the intel specialists and they draw a map. they make copies to share,and as long as everybody uses a copy of the same map, everything works out.
really is that to hard to comprehend?
And if there is no gas for the chopper? How hard is that to comprehend, I started this by saying it all depends on where they started from and the fuel they have. Reading is obvioulsy not a strong need for a great military mind like yourself.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
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Could I destroy the entire Roman Empire if I traveled back in time with with a modern Marine infantr |
Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
and you think every legion was lead by Caesar type character or something?
not even Roman general had a brilliant military mind.
generals where members of the elite ruling class and those positions was filled by political appointment.
there where more generals leading legions that was doing it just to the check in the box needed to move up the Roman hierarchy.
There isnt a single Roman general that was as stupid as you seem to think they are. Almost no one here has military training (yourself included obviously) and there isnt a single person on this board who is dumb enough to use the tactics that you are suggesting that the Romans would use in getting slaughtered.
you and think the Romans have any clue or idea the destructive power the Marines have to begin with?
really what could the Romans compare the Marines to that they could even begin to grasp the amount of power comes with modern weapons of war?
oh yeah the tactics I am suggesting are used by hannibal the huns and the gauls to defeat Roman legions.
attack them while marching in travel formation, attack them at night both tactics where used to defeat the Romans in real life using forces with equivalent tech.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
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Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
no the helo goes flying they take some aerial photos's. those are given to the intel specialists and they draw a map. they make copies to share,and as long as everybody uses a copy of the same map, everything works out.
really is that to hard to comprehend?
And if there is no gas for the chopper? How hard is that to comprehend, I started this by saying it all depends on where they started from and the fuel they have. Reading is obvioulsy not a strong need for a great military mind like yourself.
in my scenario they have a limited ration of fuel.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
in my scenario they have a limited ration of fuel.
Obviously, they seem to have a limited supply that magically appears for everything they want to do. Probably a gas fairy is with the unit.
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Sith_Mauler Posts: 1,851
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Cuttlery posted:
Sith_Mauler posted:
in my scenario they have a limited ration of fuel.
Obviously, they seem to have a limited supply that magically appears for everything they want to do. Probably a gas fairy is with the unit.
its already been established they have limited fuel rations.
a MEU travels with 30 days worth of supplies.
or do you want to ignore that fact.
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Sith_Mauler posted:
its already been established they have limited fuel rations.
a MEU travels with 30 days worth of supplies.
or do you want to ignore that fact.
And again you havent been in the military so you arent comprehending I dont think what a 30 day worth of supplies means.
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