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Mooshaka  1 star
Posts: 124
Registered: 2008-9-27 09:04:20
great change. silence was a crutch for bad players anyways.

 

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Sniperrusx
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Registered: 2003-1-29 17:23:13
Mooshaka posted:

Most bad people used silence as a crutch

 

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Gurrier
Posts: 27
Registered: 2009-11-25 15:52:47
Gah no more silence every time item use timer resets on skald

Not happy about it but overall a very very good patch

 

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Mooshaka  1 star
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Registered: 2008-9-27 09:04:20
Gurrier posted:

Gah no more silence every time item use timer resets on skald

Not happy about it but overall a very very good patch

i dont like it since it messes up my two favorite visi classes (minstrel/valk), but i tend to not have a myopic view of this game and agree that it was long overdue.

 

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Gurrier
Posts: 27
Registered: 2009-11-25 15:52:47
Lean towards casters is getting abit silly now though especially mentalists.

Menta and bard duo's are going to me supernasty even worse that eld+bard

 

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Posts: 26
Registered: 2005-2-25 14:44:52
Silence is one of those things that should've never been added to the game imo, but since they did, leave it alone as is imo.

 

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SaiyanOfDarkness  1 star
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Posts: 176
Registered: 2005-12-8 13:41:54
Now if they would only fix archer shear cloak.. so it would actually remove buffs from bots conc window instead of bugging out and keep removing pot/field buffs.

 

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Registered: 2011-1-10 11:22:35
Kahzee posted:

Vyxar posted:

I understand what you are saying in terms of it's potential/power but to be clear ML10 cloak is not an ability. It's a /use.

Casters don't really get weapon procs and so in general gear based stuff is already slanted against them.

The closest /use thing casters have had zo which affects everyone and got nerfed too.
ofc there was briefly the pictish thing which also nerfed.



the problem is daoc is very catered to casters already



I dislike you, but I agree with this statement. Between all the cc dps and abilities like speed warp casters have such an upper hand in the game now a days.

 

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Dogunugh
Posts: 11
Registered: 2008-6-23 16:37:45
carnesaur posted:

It wasn't over powered. if you got silenced, you kited for 5 seconds. until it was down

It wasn't imbalanced either. it was a good counter to classes that had shutdown abilities.


if a scout was going to zephyr me and run, id drop combat silence him then finish him


in groups if we went for a theurg, i'd silence it while running to it to stop its rr5 from stopping me


if clumsy was going to rr5 and call for help, id silence him and drop his ass before anyone could come


if i was solo and was fighting a cleric a minst and a caster, i could use it on the cleric to stop it from instancing it self back to health.


if i fought a skald valk duo and the skald gets healed, id silence the valk to give me a few more seconds
if the valk died, id silence the skald before he could sos and wilson.


it was the perfect ability to counter, counter-attacks.
tell me how any of those above scenarios seem unfair.
In every one of those, I'm stopping some BS happening to me by giving BS first.
except you only get 1 per toon every 15 mins, as opposed to some classes whos cheese tricks number in the 2s,3s, or sometimes 4s.



Yeah, I don't get how anyone can say this ability is OP. Alter it somehow, don't completely remove it, imo... it's not such an "I win" ability (at least compared to some other abilities) that it needs to be completely removed. I just don't get the point, I guess...it's a single target, RUT 15 min, and lasts what, 5 seconds? Is it really THAT overpowered? I have a feeling that everyone who is for this change are the ones who don't ever use silence.

How about this for a GD fix - don't make the cloak buggable so you can equip it without all of the ml10 items on. That would change quite a few templates I would think.

 

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Grimreeperx
Posts: 15
Registered: 2008-8-18 00:09:55
Kahzee posted:

Vyxar posted:

I understand what you are saying in terms of it's potential/power but to be clear ML10 cloak is not an ability. It's a /use.

Casters don't really get weapon procs and so in general gear based stuff is already slanted against them.

The closest /use thing casters have had zo which affects everyone and got nerfed too.
ofc there was briefly the pictish thing which also nerfed.



the problem is daoc is very catered to casters already



Yes but they pay the price by falling apart like soft bread. I like this change Kahzee, I think you can take a guess at why, ahem, mainly because savages are gay

 

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