Date Posted:4/4/12 8:01amSubject:
Ml10 tank cloak change. Like, dislike, don't care?
Dislike - should stay the same as it is now. It's the only effective counter that a tank (or a group, apart from zephyr) can use for abilities like MoC and Phaseshift. It only lasts 10 seconds every 15 minutes; it can be cured easily; most people use it almost randomly as an interrupt anyway, rather than as a way to prevent people using abilities. It's always been silly that certain classes (healers, bards, archers, minstrels, theurgs etc.) are able to fingerroll abilities and have a get-out-of-jail-free card in any situation, no matter how poorly they play.
Being able to purge it would make it worthless tbh; would make it an even weaker ability than say having a minstrel insta-stun on a 15 minute reuse.
And the replacement is more OP if anything. Free Empty Mind V? My zerker will be able to have 80% effective spell resists now, lol.
Date Posted:4/4/12 8:01amSubject:
Ml10 tank cloak change. Like, dislike, don't care?
It's a very long overdue and good change.
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Date Posted:4/4/12 8:01amSubject:
Ml10 tank cloak change. Like, dislike, don't care?
ricjeid posted: And the replacement is more OP if anything. Free Empty Mind V? My zerker will be able to have 80% effective spell resists now, lol.
Even if that's true it's better mechanics. Think about fury... People don't feel like the toon they are playing is totally shut down. Silence just causes so much grief on the small scale that even if it's ok on the bigger scale it had to go. Particularly after they nerfed the 5 seconds of pictish fumble.
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Date Posted:4/4/12 8:01amSubject:
Ml10 tank cloak change. Like, dislike, don't care?
Vyxar posted:
ricjeid posted: And the replacement is more OP if anything. Free Empty Mind V? My zerker will be able to have 80% effective spell resists now, lol.
Even if that's true it's better mechanics. Think about fury... People don't feel like the toon they are playing is totally shut down. Silence just causes so much grief on the small scale that even if it's ok on the bigger scale it had to go. Particularly after they nerfed the 5 seconds of pictish fumble.
It's really not much different than other abilities like Zephyr or Theurg RR5 or insta stun/mez or MoC that can be dumped and used to grief/shut people down in small scale situations. Sadly, it's actually one of the few counters to those sorts of abilities. If anything it's less OP than Zephyr since silence can at least be cured, you can use items, and/or you often have the chance to run the other way for 10 seconds when it's used against you.
Silence provides a counterpart to nullify casters in a similar way to how bodyguard and grapple nullify tanks (also abilities that can't be purged).
An immunity timer for it (same as nearsight, grapple, stun etc.) would be reasonable though.
Date Posted:4/4/12 8:01amSubject:
Ml10 tank cloak change. Like, dislike, don't care?
Mezzedbyabear posted: Nah cause then you'd have to temp it in even if the utility sucked. I know a profanity ton of albs temp the silence cloak just for an I win button against any caster. Seems far too cheesy for me. The only tank I have that cloak on is my warrior and that's just because it happened to have stats I needed. I never use it anyways cause I'm always using celerity charges.
Somebody playing a warlock should talk about I win bottons. So a tank approaches warlock. They interrupt then warlock starts using uninterurputable life taps. Then tank slams or stuns. Warlock purges chamber dump and continues to uninterurputable cast. Use power charge if needed. Rinse repeat.
I just saying you can run thru and stuff like that but there is no reason a tank should die to caster who they are beating on.
Date Posted:4/4/12 8:01amSubject:
Ml10 tank cloak change. Like, dislike, don't care?
Was stupid design that you couldn't purge it. Don't really care over all, but more likely to benefit from this change since I was more likely to be silenced myself than actually have someone in group with it.
Date Posted:4/4/12 8:01amSubject:
Ml10 tank cloak change. Like, dislike, don't care?
I understand what you are saying in terms of it's potential/power but to be clear ML10 cloak is not an ability. It's a /use.
Casters don't really get weapon procs and so in general gear based stuff is already slanted against them.
The closest /use thing casters have had zo which affects everyone and got nerfed too.
ofc there was briefly the pictish thing which also nerfed.
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