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kyrv  2 stars
Title: Lord Logicus
Posts: 263
Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
poster posted:

WoW needs a FFA Server



At the risk of stating the obvious, one person wanting <x> does not mean WoW needs <x>.


WoW doesn't need a FFA server.


Not sure the lore really supports it. And yes, while they selectively adjust the lore, they don't always ignore it entirely.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
Posts: 499
Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
siujoey posted:

Gutter is right. (Did I just say that?) Characterizing an entire group of players as griefers for the style of play they enjoy is pigheaded and ignorant. His analogy of 9/11 and muslims is right on. That's a major problem in this country. And come to think of it, I would rather be considered a "kindergarten courtyard hero" than judgmental and self righteous. Ignorance is no excuse for bigotry and generalizations.


Edit: To clarify, I would probably not play on an FFA server if they introduced one. I just refuse to characterize the people that would like one as angst-ridden teens looking for someone to grief. And I certainly wouldn't say it in one sentence while stating the need for decency and fairness in the next.



Actually, he's wrong and here's why: he's guilty of the very behavior he would have those who disagree with his point.


To the point, he just characterized those in disagreement as pigheaded, ignorant, judgmental, and self-righteous. In fact, he even goes as far as to use 9/11 and muslims in comparison.


Excuse me?


The problem with blanket statements that scattershot like this is while them may land on their mark most of the time, they may wildly miss and point out the absence of validity.


I'm muslim.


And his argument's example just made him look like a complete fool.


Keep politics out of this.

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
Ardenwolfe posted:

siujoey posted:

Gutter is right. (Did I just say that?) Characterizing an entire group of players as griefers for the style of play they enjoy is pigheaded and ignorant. His analogy of 9/11 and muslims is right on. That's a major problem in this country. And come to think of it, I would rather be considered a "kindergarten courtyard hero" than judgmental and self righteous. Ignorance is no excuse for bigotry and generalizations.

Edit: To clarify, I would probably not play on an FFA server if they introduced one. I just refuse to characterize the people that would like one as angst-ridden teens looking for someone to grief. And I certainly wouldn't say it in one sentence while stating the need for decency and fairness in the next.



Actually, he's wrong and here's why: he's guilty of the very behavior he would have those who disagree with his point.

To the point, he just characterized those in disagreement as pigheaded, ignorant, jugmental, and self-righteous. In fact, he even goes as far as to use 9/11 and muslims in comparison.

Excuse me?

The problem with blanket statements that scattershot like this is while them may land on their mark most of the time, they are wildly miss and point out the absence of validity.

I'm muslim.

And your argument's point just made you look like a complete fool.

Keep politics out of this.



Do you even read what you type? Jfc...

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
Posts: 499
Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
The_Korrigan posted:

Trolls, unite!



That and the fact they feel the need to defend themselves after Peo's spot on analogy.


If they had any sense at all, they would've remained quiet. But, that requires common sense and zero sense of guilt.


Again, happy they self-identified themselves since even they know they're trolls.


And we need the thicker skin . . .

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
The lol factor in this thread just went up. I think I'll stay tuned.

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
Ardenwolfe posted:

The_Korrigan posted:

Trolls, unite!



That and the fact they feel the need to defend themselves after Peo's spot on analogy.


If they had any sense at all, they would've remained quiet. But, that requires common sense and zero sense of guilt.


Again, happy they self-identified themselves since even they know they're trolls.


And we need the thicker skin . . .



You know what is worse then a Troll that knows he is a Troll?


A troll that doesn't..

 

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siujoey  2 stars
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
--Syrus-- posted:

The lol factor in this thread just went up. I think I'll stay tuned.

 

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siujoey  2 stars
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
Ardenwolfe posted:

siujoey posted:

Gutter is right. (Did I just say that?) Characterizing an entire group of players as griefers for the style of play they enjoy is pigheaded and ignorant. His analogy of 9/11 and muslims is right on. That's a major problem in this country. And come to think of it, I would rather be considered a "kindergarten courtyard hero" than judgmental and self righteous. Ignorance is no excuse for bigotry and generalizations.

Edit: To clarify, I would probably not play on an FFA server if they introduced one. I just refuse to characterize the people that would like one as angst-ridden teens looking for someone to grief. And I certainly wouldn't say it in one sentence while stating the need for decency and fairness in the next.



Actually, he's wrong and here's why: he's guilty of the very behavior he would have those who disagree with his point.

To the point, he just characterized those in disagreement as pigheaded, ignorant, judgmental, and self-righteous. In fact, he even goes as far as to use 9/11 and muslims in comparison.

Excuse me?

The problem with blanket statements that scattershot like this is while them may land on their mark most of the time, they may wildly miss and point out the absence of validity.

I'm muslim.

And your argument's example just made you look like a complete fool.

Keep politics out of this.



Actually, you are mixing quotes from two different people. Gutter and I will never be on the same page as far as griefing goes, we've been down that road before.

However, I did not characterize people who disagree as pigheaded and ignorant, it's people who characterize FFA players as some sort of degenerate griefers because they like that playstyle that are ignorant. You have now determined that they are a certain type of person (in and out of game) because of how they play. I don't consider myself a troll, I am actually trying to have a discussion. But since I disagree with you, I am labeled a troll. After all, that's what you seem to be good at- labeling people.

 

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Ardenwolfe  2 stars
Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
Posts: 499
Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
--Syrus-- posted:

You know what is worse then a Troll that knows he is a Troll?


A troll that doesn't..



An Internet troll would respond with something like, "Oh look. It's Arc little minion come to back and butt-snorkel him some more. That's so cute."


That's trolling.


Instead, since you believe me a troll--albeit an indirect opinion--I recommend you do the following:


1. Don't quote me.

2. Don't respond to me.

3. Don't give me any attention.


You ignore trolls as Peo demonstrates like a master. That's how you deal with those individuals.


Sorry you feel that way, Syrus, but I trust this will be the last time you respond to me.


And as far as calling or labeling anyone a troll, that's the irony. No where in this thread did anyone, anywhere, name anyone a troll directly.


Those that responded to it, again defensively and indirectly, identified themselves. If you don't feel guilty of it, you won't feel the need to respond to that allegation since it wouldn't apply.


Really that simple.


Edit:


siujoey posted:

Actually, you are mixing quotes from two different people. Gutter and I will never be on the same page as far as griefing goes, we've been down that road before.



You are completely correct. I apologize and edited the 'your' to 'his' to correct this error. Again, my apologies on mixing my pronouns as I meant his example and not your statement.


And, for the record, I've never considered you a troll. Heck, I don't even know you. But, I do label people. It's not what I'm best at, but I will do it. And let's not kid ourselves. Who doesn't?

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
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Ardenwolfe posted:

--Syrus-- posted:

You know what is worse then a Troll that knows he is a Troll?


A troll that doesn't..



An Internet troll would respond with something like, "Oh look. It's Arc little minion come to back and butt-snorkel him some more. That's so cute."


That's trolling.


Instead, since you believe me a troll--albeit an indirect opinion--I recommend you do the following:


1. Don't quote me.

2. Don't respond to me.

3. Don't give me any attention.


You ignore trolls as Peo demonstrates like a master. That's how you deal with those individuals.


Sorry you feel that way, Syrus, but I trust this will be the last time you respond to me.


And as far as calling or labeling anyone a troll, that's the irony. No where in this thread did anyone, anywhere, name anyone a troll directly.


Those that responded to it, again defensively and indirectly, identified themselves. If you don't feel guilty of it, you won't feel the need to respond to that allegation since it wouldn't apply.


Really that simple.



Some Irony huh? You've told me before that you blieve me a troll yet you still felt the need to respond to me. You act like your above throwing back trolling insults by saying what a troll would say, yet you still say it. Do you think that just because you're putting it quotes its not coming from you? How comical.


So you responded to my post, trolled me yourself by insulting me and then you go on to say that people shouldn't be responding to trolls which you did.


You also said that trolls that feel guilty about it feel the need to respond and self identify, which is exactly what you did as well. Very nice. Thank you for clearing that up.

 

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