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Shenron_  3 stars
Posts: 543
Registered: 2002-12-8 21:34:16
Auenwing posted:

/rose-colored glasses


Ah, the bygone days in DAoC when you'd salute a fallen enemy because you respected his fighting ability....


Anybody else miss that?


Oh. Sorry for the interrupt. Carry on the FFA-fest here.


/salute



i don't remember those days. but i do remember the days of humping a players corpse or sitting on their head. i also remember people taking off their pants and doing a backwards bow to moon you. and other various friendly emotes. ahh, the good ol days.
Auenwing  3 stars
Title: straightface
Posts: 589
Registered: 2002-12-27 23:23:12
Ugh_Lancelot posted:

GutterSludge posted:

I agree 100%. All of these point out the absence of validity through the ignorance of gross generalizations.

Refusing to see the nuance of an opponent's argument is no less an error than over-generalizing, in addition to making you look churlish when followed by ad-hominem insults. Nobody's saying FFA servers don't work at all, just that FFA servers tend to suck up far too many resources for their limited positive benefits to overcome from a business perspective. Arguably, this could be overcome with creative development and if anyone can do it, Blizzard should be able to.


But we were having an argument between FFA goons and mental defectives, right? Sorry to derail things.


[edit]Yes, I see what I did, there.



Stop being reasonable and logical please, it's causing an on-track discussion, and I just made a fresh batch of popcorn.


Yes, I just trolled. I think.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Thread in a nutshell..

A bunch of PVE players who think their opinion on a PVP matter means more than that of those who PVP, and anyone who disagrees is a "troll".


Griefing does not exist, except in the mind of the loser. I've said this a dozen times on this board, and it still holds true.

I fight ALL THE TIME solo vs odds...me vs 2, me vs 3..me vs 4...the best I ever did? Me vs 8, AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN GRIEFED.

Of course I lose the majority of these fights. Of course I stand little chance of taking out an entire group of 5. Do I scream "griefing"!!. HELL NO.

Why? Because it is a PVP server, and one can never WIN a 1 vs 8, if you never FIGHT 1 vs 8.


I cannot tell you how many hundreds of times I have been assaulted by "??" players while leveling. Do I cry "griefing"!! HELL NO.
WHY?

Because to me it is just part of the environment of a PVP realm.


Of course, not everyone is capable of this line of thought. Those people who were brought up by mommy to always be "2nd winner", instead of just being allowed to lose, have no business ever stepping foot off of their PVE realms, let alone onto a FFA server. Leave that to those with thicker skin.

 

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JzeroVN  1 star
Posts: 90
Registered: 2001-3-16 19:00:46
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Of course, not everyone is capable of this line of thought.

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Of Course, not everyone is stupid enough to believe that line of BS.


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Those people who were brought up by mommy to always be "2nd winner", instead of just being allowed to lose, have no business ever stepping foot off of their PVE realms, let alone onto a FFA server.

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If all this 1v5, 1v8 isn't happening on a perma-death server then it's just a bunch of mamma's boys having a slap fight anyway. You go girls!


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Leave that to those with thicker skin.

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Thicker-headed perhaps.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Yet you play on a PVE realm.

More astute commentary from yet another PVE player.


/chuckle

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
Ardenwolfe posted:

--Syrus-- posted:

Some Irony huh? You've told me before that you blieve me a troll yet you still felt the need to respond to me. You act like your above throwing back trolling insults by saying what a troll would say, yet you still say it. Do you think that just because you're putting it quotes its not coming from you? How comical.


So you responded to my post, trolled me yourself by insulting me and then you go on to say that people shouldn't be responding to trolls which you did.


You also said that trolls that feel guilty about it feel the need to respond and self identify, which is exactly what you did as well. Very nice. Thank you for clearing that up.



No friend, I'm giving you what you're giving me. Perhaps, you would like to identify who you actually meant with your 'troll' comment then? Someone else maybe?


Like I said before, if you don't believe it true and you think I'm a troll, just don't respond.


I actually don't think you're a troll. I think you're caught up in the 'I'll be cool too' clique you decided to join.


When you make valid arguments and discussion, I respond in kind with what you give if you recall from earlier threads. But, when you respond like you did in this thread, you'll get it right back.


As Korr stated, you don't like it when your tactics are used against you.


I know this will fall on deaf ears, but I hope one day like Peo realized, you're not doing yourself any favors.


And I'll treat you with the respect you deserve.



Ok fair enough. I just think that you and a few others here spend more time complaining about the trolls and even going as far as to troll them back then the trolls themselves spend trolling.


I see posters here who say how against trolling they are and act like they are above it all and it doesn't take more then a few pokes to see them resort to profanity and name calling.


This thread was about an FFA server and it was derailed because it was linked over to the same behavior as trolling, it is like some anti-trolls on these forms have to bring up how much they hate the trolls at every chance they get and still don't catch on that all that does is feed the very thing they claim to abhor. When the trolls do show up, these anti trolls are right in there slugging it out.


In those cases to me they are no different from a Troll in fact they are worse because they either purposley feed the trolls and then think their point proven when they bite, or they are atually so dense that they don't see their very action not only permit trolling, they encourage it.


So if you truly mean what you say about trolling, not wanting it on this forum and that not responding to a troll is the best course of action, then lead by example.

 

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Foojo  1 star
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Registered: 2008-8-18 16:16:47
In my opinion the reason that there isn't any FFA servers is because historically they are the lowest played. So the dev has to create and support a special branch of code for very few people. There really is no incentive for the dev.

 

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-Peo-  2 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
I think if you can find a way to shout it makes your point somehow worth more, amiright? Anyhoo, said my piece, the usual people showed up, done with it, carry on.

 

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Spookysheep  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
But if we didn't have our resident whiners crying about people trolling all the time, this place would not be fun for any of us.

 

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Broken_Kayfabe  1 star
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Registered: 2002-2-16 01:05:01
TinMan52 posted:

Personally, I'm tired of the two faction MMO paradigm. If SC could implement 3 factions and WC3 could implement 4 factions in an RTS, why can't a Blizzard MMO move beyond 2 factions?



The false god "balance".

The first mmorpg dev who figures out zero-sum balancing is better than relativistic balancing will have a huge hit on their hands.

 

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