Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
Korrigan nailed it. Except I almost never respond to the worst offenders, pointing them out just makes them preen that much harder.
Joey, I can't just let it go, I want (foolishly I guess) the world to be a better place and for people to be noble and genuinely nice when they don't have to. Instead of them showing an ugly, mocking side of themselves when they are anonymous. That is what taking responsibility means, when it doesn't matter and you will not get punished, that is when your true colors shine.
And a lot of posters here, don't shine.
And don't get me wrong, I am not even close to perfect, I have in the past been one of these people, I got caught up in the gang mentality...I have since tried ever so hard to grow up. I would guess that I have been banned more times than most of you, possibly put together, so I understand the mentality quite well. The profile I used to use, I purposefully had closed permanently, becuz I no longer wanted to be that person and I could not get away from the it.
Auen, respectfully, I do not agree. This board does not police itself, it simply let's people say whatever they want as long as it doesn't use profanity. Especially if you are in the clique. I regularly see people completely destroying other people's perspectives (when I come here at all). With no regard for anything, just willful mockery and derision. Because they are somehow cool for being so assinine. I've learned to not respond to them, as they get enjoyment out of it, but it is as rampant as ever. Because we expect it and we are desensitized to it, does mean it isn't there.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
Peo,
This board (and many like it) are opinion based.
From reading your dribble, it would seem that the "world would be a better place" if only everyone would agree with YOU..YOUR views on what is "acceptable behavior". YOUR views on if a game should have FFA or not. YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU....
Variety is the spice of life. If we all shared the same views, the world would would be a boring assed place to live.
Get thicker skin, or stfu.
Oh, and on a side note, I like the way you so subtly admitted to ban evasion with that "other account with thousands of posts" comment. Nice job.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
I must admit, I didn't believe this thread would show any merit. But, it made those most guilty of the behavior Peo and Korr describe indirectly self-identify.
When your position is so weak that you need to retort with personal attacks or general name calling to disagree, you make Peo's earlier point.
It's not about variety or thicker skin, it's about tact and respect.
The discussion board is all about disagreement. This fuels discussion. Otherwise, yes, like the world, it would be a boring place if everyone agreed.
The problem is, much like an FFA devolves into, the general scenario results in the player who only cares about their concerns, feelings, or desires.
To hell with the rest.
That's why, again in general, FFA servers don't work: it does become griefing.
And when that behavior happens on a discussion board, we call that trolling.
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
Instead of a FFA server, maybe just a larger FFA zone can be implemented.
Like an earlier post mentioned, Blizzard already has the code to do this for outdoor Arena. The one in STV even come with rewards and achievement to promote FFA activities.
Some possible implementation can include:
* Wintergrasp zone, during the 2 hours duration when battle is not taking place -- perhaps, make the FFA zone anywhere outside the keep. Let players fight for the mine node/herb/fish and maybe even random chest on the map.
* Fishing tournament (particularly, on PvP servers). Make anyone that participate in the tournament as FFA. On most PvP servers today, people are already forming small group to protect the participant, and also kill the opponent from opposite factions. Adding FFA elements will allow even more PvP actions to take place.
Essentially, there should be some meaning to why you want to kill another players, and not just mindless zerg fest. So, either last-man-standing so you can loot the Arena Master trinket/achievement, or protecting a friend against the assault from another group
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
Exodus_The_Mage posted: * Fishing tournament (particularly, on PvP servers). Make anyone that participate in the tournament as FFA. On most PvP servers today, people are already forming small group to protect the participant, and also kill the opponent from opposite factions. Adding FFA elements will allow even more PvP actions to take place.
Hopefully you mean only on PvP servers. Because there's no doubt that suggestion would have a "huge" success on PvE servers among the vast majority enjoying fishing without being ganked by bored teenagers looking for attention and opportunities to display their epeens...
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
Ardenwolfe posted: I must admit, I didn't believe this thread would show any merit. But, it made those most guilty of the behavior Peo and Korr describe indirectly self-identify.
What, you mean the behavior that labels everyone who might enjoy a FFA as a griefer? I agree, you , Korrigan, and Peo are all guilty. Much like blaming all muslims for 911, instead of realizing that a few crazy arseholes who happened to be Muslim were responsible. I agree this type of grouping is ignorant, and to spout that this view is the "correct one" only multiples that ignorance.
Ardenwolfe posted: When your position is so weak that you need to retort with personal attacks or general name calling to disagree, you make Peo's earlier point.
The problem is, much like an FFA devolves into, the general scenario results in the player who only cares about their concerns, feelings, or desires.
To hell with the rest.
I agree 100%..just look at Korrigan, Peo, and in the mirror...Anyone who disagrees with any of you is automatically a "griefer", or a "troll".. lmao at the hypocrisy in your statement, and the two that follow..
Ardenwolfe posted: That's why, again in general, FFA servers don't work: it does become griefing.
And when that behavior happens on a discussion board, we call that trolling.
We have had this discussion before. Some people just are not cut out for PVP. They feel that being attacked while fishing, or in any otherwise unexpected manner is "griefing", which is simply not the case. It is just PVP.
I have always played on a PVP server in WOW, and I can honestly say, I have NEVER been griefed. Not once.
I have been killed. Period.
Those who call being outnumbered, or being killed by a higher level "griefing" are just not mentally capable when it comes to realizing that whether by mobs, or by the hands a player, a death is a death is a death. Being killed repeatedly? Stand next to that guard at the gate of an enemy city, or any mob spawn. The mobs will kill you over and over. Run through Terrokar at level 25...you will get slaughtered by the mobs there.
Yet somehow, a level 80 in WG fishing being attacked by another level 80 is "griefing"...why? Because of the mental "defect" that allows people to somehow believe that the two forms of death are in any way different.
If you are one of the mentally defective, then you really should not comment on this thread. Leave this thread for the people with thick skin, who realize that a death is a death is a death, and is just all in the course of a day in the life on a PVP server.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
Hehe, and guttersludge gives us another example of what we were saying... while his whole post is amusing, one part of it specifically illustrates what I've said before:
GutterSludge posted: If you are one of the mentally defective, then you really should not comment on this thread. Leave this thread for the people with thick skin, who realize that a death is a death is a death, and is just all in the course of a day in the life on a PVP server.
The_Korrigan posted: It's the "kindergarten courtyard hero" syndrome all over again, as I said recently in another thread.
Those guys seem think they are some kind of heroes here, rebels (without a cause), "real men", and they have a small clan of supporters too among which some members of this site's management. Of course, then it's easier to get away with their trolling and douchebag attitude.
Some fun things to do is to use their own weapons against them. When they reap what they sow, their reactions are always priceless and childishly stupid.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
How is there enough room on that soapbox for all of your bloated egos...
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:02amSubject:
WoW needs a FFA Server.
Gutter is right. (Did I just say that?) Characterizing an entire group of players as griefers for the style of play they enjoy is pigheaded and ignorant. His analogy of 9/11 and muslims is right on. That's a major problem in this country. And come to think of it, I would rather be considered a "kindergarten courtyard hero" than judgmental and self righteous. Ignorance is no excuse for bigotry and generalizations.
Edit: To clarify, I would probably not play on an FFA server if they introduced one. I just refuse to characterize the people that would like one as angst-ridden teens looking for someone to grief. And I certainly wouldn't say it in one sentence while stating the need for decency and fairness in the next.
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