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Voqar  1 star
Posts: 169
Registered: 2001-3-12 10:39:10
-Spacelord- posted:

I stopped healing too, my favorite role. It is unbelievable to be nerfed that much. I understand their design but it is too much responsibility for one role while other all they have to do is swear at the healer.



I don't think it's nerfed at all.


People got used to never ending mana, spamming inefficient heals, overhealing ridiculously (you could see meters with most healers over 50% overhealing - that's insanely inefficient - but they could get away with it due to mana mechanics).


I like that healing involves thinking and strategy and is more of a group responsibility. I like that morons who used to just spam healbot wacamole are having to truly learn how to heal. I like that as a tank/healer, I have to really push to minimize incoming damage and strategize more (use CC, pull smarter, etc).


It's a gear thing (most people are undergeared, not enchanted, not gemmed, and going "LOL i'm 329 let me q for heroic".


Undergeared dps morons who don't put out decent dps AND who stand in puddles, don't interrupt, don't pay attention to dmg, etc cause way more stress on healers and tanks.


It's also an eduction thing. People need to learn the mob abilities, kill priorities, pulls, layouts. It'll come along.

 

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_Kewk_  2 stars
Title: Sith Lord
Posts: 400
Registered: 2002-12-17 16:11:04
Healing is frustrating and not fun. I don't play games to be frustrated and not have fun.
kyrv  2 stars
Title: Lord Logicus
Posts: 263
Registered: 2002-1-31 13:09:58
Voqar posted:

-Spacelord- posted:

I stopped healing too, my favorite role. It is unbelievable to be nerfed that much. I understand their design but it is too much responsibility for one role while other all they have to do is swear at the healer.



I don't think it's nerfed at all.


People got used to never ending mana, spamming inefficient heals, overhealing ridiculously (you could see meters with most healers over 50% overhealing - that's insanely inefficient - but they could get away with it due to mana mechanics).


I like that healing involves thinking and strategy and is more of a group responsibility. I like that morons who used to just spam healbot wacamole are having to truly learn how to heal. I like that as a tank/healer, I have to really push to minimize incoming damage and strategize more (use CC, pull smarter, etc).


It's a gear thing (most people are undergeared, not enchanted, not gemmed, and going "LOL i'm 329 let me q for heroic".


Undergeared dps morons who don't put out decent dps AND who stand in puddles, don't interrupt, don't pay attention to dmg, etc cause way more stress on healers and tanks.


It's also an eduction thing. People need to learn the mob abilities, kill priorities, pulls, layouts. It'll come along.



I'm not clear here, you said healing is not nerfed but then continue to describe some of the ways healing was nerfed?


I thought Blizz and GC were clear healing was being nerfed?

 

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IvanDF  1 star
Title: Veni, vidi, vici
Posts: 190
Registered: 2004-11-28 11:24:08
I think it's going to be a few months before most of the player base "gets it" as far as the new mechanics of the game. Even at 82-83 dps does not use their CC on a caster that's standing out there free casting on people. No one is assisting anyone, so as the tank I'm having to target everything to do direct damage to keep ago so no one gets all pissy about getting hit a few times.

I dont know, I just hope it gets better.

 

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Rill_of_WE  3 stars
Title: WoW Vault Site Manager
Posts: 557
Registered: 2002-8-6 09:16:33
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spaceurface
Posts: 4
Registered: 2008-8-20 07:36:18
What has been disturbing for me is when playing my mage. I poly a mob to make everyone's engagement - primarily our healer's - life easier and less stressful and the tanks play on like it was just like before.

I like the more casual play style though. Enjoyed the old days when you had to THINK about a certain situations, take your time and not rush through everything.
Rhapsedy
Posts: 13
Registered: 2004-7-26 09:11:48
My favorite class is my druid. I love playing her. I love healing. I have not had the chance to heal in any 80+ instances yet. She is only 82 and I have not been able to get into any of the new instances. After reading this thread perhaps I should be grateful. I mostly still run the pre-cata instances with my guild and they are still pretty easy.


I am leveling a hunter and I do go into the random groups and I have noticed that they are crazy. They just rush mobs and pull like they have a 80 heal with all her spells and in reso or holy spec. I think that they do forget that the healer they do have in lower levels is probably spec for dps and not healing. The definatly do not take that into consideration.


I'm leveling my druid as fast as I can, what with work and all. But I am in no rush to see any p.u.g. groups. I think I'll stick with my guild on the new cata instances untill I can see how they work.

 

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--Syrus--  3 stars
Posts: 536
Registered: 2003-12-2 15:51:47
I'm having fun healing, it is more challenging, but as said above, the real challenge is not to understand it yourself. A decent healer catches on pretty quick what changes need to be made, what heals to throw out and when. I've even found myself preemptively charging a heal when I know big damage is going to hit.

Like the last boss in stone core throws those huge boulders. There is really no excuse to be getting hit by those, if one or two members of your party insist on standing there and getting hit by it that could just be enough to put you in a pinch between topping them back up and keeping the tank up.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
Holy crap what a bunch of whiners. I've been having more fun healing randoms in the last week than I ever had since the random daily system was implemented. Oh noes you have to select which spells to use to conserve mana? Oh noes you have to let that dps sit at 20% life to heal up the tank first? The current implementation will truly show who is a good healer and who is one of those 'Wrath' scrubs I keep hearing about here on VN. Tanks and DPS weren't the only ones to get stupid with that expansion you know!

P.S. I've actually found that pointing out when someone is doing something wrong in a less than hateful way can usually cause people to learn from their mistakes. How many people have complemented me on how awesome my healing is this past week? I kinda lost track...

 

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-Peo-  2 stars
Title: Caveat Lector
Posts: 408
Registered: 2005-2-2 08:38:42
Quazimortal posted:

Holy crap what a bunch of whiners. I've been having more fun healing randoms in the last week than I ever had since the random daily system was implemented. Oh noes you have to select which spells to use to conserve mana? Oh noes you have to let that dps sit at 20% life to heal up the tank first? The current implementation will truly show who is a good healer and who is one of those 'Wrath' scrubs I keep hearing about here on VN. Tanks and DPS weren't the only ones to get stupid with that expansion you know!

P.S. I've actually found that pointing out when someone is doing something wrong in a less than hateful way can usually cause people to learn from their mistakes. How many people have complemented me on how awesome my healing is this past week? I kinda lost track...



Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

 

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