You don't have to be in beta to have beta information. All of these issues were discussed before the expansion came out.

You're right, but I don't think you know the way in which you are correct.

The path that was not good to continue down was the one where people left the instance if they weren't overgeared enough to tackle it without CC. That path was the one they persisted with for too long during WOAOELK and the players' reaction to the dungeon not being easy mode unless you were well overgeared was the indication that the path had run its course.

 

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I think this thread is a prime example of the people/players that at least try to stay informed, and the masses that never check a board, forum, or any other site related to WOW.


I know we give each other a real hard time about a lot of different issues, playstyles, and general game attitude, but I can say without a doubt I would prefer anyone who posts and/or at least reads these boards in my group over just about anyone else.

We have known these changes were coming, discussed (and are still discussing) them, and at least attempt to adapt to them as time goes by.


What we (Sly for example) are running in to is the players that never do any of the above, who honestly do not have a clue as to what is going on.


Sly, this isn't your fault. You are just 4 steps ahead of the average mouth breather...and it is going to take some time for them to catch up.

 

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IDK I take pride in my playstyle. I went back to tanking in Cataclysm because there was some challenge to it again. You don't find the challenge and conquer to be fun? A big reason that healers are not having fun right now is if you are running with dumb DPS. If the DPS are trying to play as if they are in WOLTK then yes you may be going OOM fast, spamming heals on everyone who is taking avoidable damage.

 

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From all the forums and feeds I read there is something that seems to be the same across all of them. Tanks or healer whining about healing. As I said above... when you realize that there will be enough mana there for the healer if he doesn't have to heal unneeded and totally avoidable damage that the DPS bring upon themselves you to will let out a sigh of relief. If you are a tank or healer you make the rules. "We will use CC. We will go at the speed I wish. You will not break CC. You will not stand in the fire. You will focus fire the skull I mark and follow it. You waited in a 30+ minute queue as a DPS, I was in a queue for 30 seconds. Play smart or get the boot. I will be in a new dungeon before you can QQ to your M&S friends."

 

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Warrior CC is actually decent if you stick them on a caster. I was able to lockdown casters several times last night just using what I had (charge/intercept/pummel/throwdown/etc.) By the time my group got to the caster he never got a single spell off and was at 30% health. Weird way of looking at warriors as CC though If nothing else, we still have insane DPS.

 

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This.


Times eleventy.

 

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Yeah, that came out kind of wrong. What I meant was, ultimately my "skill" in WoW means nothing. Let's be honest, my resume doesn't mention my level or tier of gear. That's not to say I don't strive to be the best every time. But if being the best compromises fun (like if the cookie cutter build destroys my playstyle) I just won't do it. My DK has 2/2 "On a pale horse". It's not part of the cookie cutter spec and doesn't provide any dps gain, but dammit I am impatient and I want to get there 20% faster.

When I sit down to play a video game, I don't want to have to power through an un-fun dungeon by telling myself "no pain, no gain".

And for the record, HHoR is one of my all time favorites. :-)

 

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Mouth-breathing is bad.

 

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You know, you're right. That's the root of the frustration for me. I find even one night away and I'm already feeling less stressed. It's beyond frustrating to try to help folks, then have them ignore you and yell at you when they die. A little time waiting for someone else to teach them is just what the doctor ordered.

--Sly

 

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