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Shenron_  3 stars
Posts: 543
Registered: 2002-12-8 21:34:16
this is a pvp game. of course it matters what gear other people have. especially since we are talking about *pvp* gear here and not pve gear.
pattongb  1 star
Posts: 84
Registered: 2002-5-28 12:07:13
Shenron_ posted:

this is a pvp game. of course it matters what gear other people have. especially since we are talking about *pvp* gear here and not pve gear.

this is a pvp game.


^^ Huh?

 

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siujoey  2 stars
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
A) This is NOT a PvP game. It is a PvE game with some PvP thrown in because otherwise, they would not have as many subs.

B) I have always enjoyed BGs, but towards the end of WotLK and in the beginning of Cata, I have done BGs almost exclusively since I don't particularly enjoy raiding. Yet... I don't care who has what gear or how they got it. Plain and simple: if you are worried about what gear the other guy has and how easy he got it, you're probably getting your ass kicked.

 

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Shenron_  3 stars
Posts: 543
Registered: 2002-12-8 21:34:16
it is the most pvp-oriented mmo i have ever played...i play on a pvp server though, so i suppose pve players have a different experience. either way pvp gear is only good for pvp and is gained only through pvp, so if you are using the gear you must be spending time in pvp.


and no i never get my ass kicked, nor do i "worry" about anyone else. but i want variety and fairness in pvp BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT FUN. not because i want to be uber.


i don't think there should be a welfare uber pvp gear set every single person should have access to for just for doing a few minutes a day of tol barad. the whole point of a game run by professionals is to have a thought out and fair system in place, not some wishy washy free honor/gear for a few days! limited time offer! crap
siujoey  2 stars
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
Yeah, I meant "you" in the general sense, not you specifically.

Anyway, I am not defending the TB change, it was idiotic. Everyone knew it would not last. But no matter what anyone says- knowledge and experience > resilience.

 

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Broken_Kayfabe  1 star
Posts: 248
Registered: 2002-2-16 01:05:01
siujoey posted:

He never said he wanted or deserved the same gear as anyone else.



Gidgiddoni posted:

I work and have a family, and I go on in the evenings and see folks in the guild and elsewhere with tons of PvE and other gear that I don't have and won't ever have because I don't have the fricking time to commit to it.



siujoey posted:

Reading is hard.



Not really. The true problem is that you're an idiot. That makes EVERYTHING hard.


siujoey posted:

The ironic part is that you call those casuals spoiled children.



Entitled casuals who reference their real life in order to justify getting gear easier than other people ARE spoiled children. That's pretty much what entitled means.


siujoey posted:

TLR- Grow up.



I wish the entitled casuals would, yes. Maybe accept that they do not deserve everything everyone else has just because they paid the same monthly fee. You are not a special little snowflake and the world does not revolve around you.

 

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Broken_Kayfabe  1 star
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Registered: 2002-2-16 01:05:01
Gidgiddoni posted:

Just for the record. Do you over-generalize at all times or just in this post?



You backtrack like a champ. The truth is your first post was an unapologetic smugpost about getting things you were jealous other people had that you could not obtain before the "fix". Your BS was called out and now you're mad.

 

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siujoey  2 stars
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Broken_Kayfabe posted:

Gidgiddoni posted:

I work and have a family, and I go on in the evenings and see folks in the guild and elsewhere with tons of PvE and other gear that I don't have and won't ever have because I don't have the fricking time to commit to it.




I don't see the part where he said it bothered him or that he was entitled to it. Did you forget to link that part? Or was it..... not there?

 

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siujoey  2 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
For the record, I interpreted his post as "it happened, people exploited, it's over, who cares?" Not that he thinks it should stay that way so he can obtain the gear he is "entitled" to and catch up to "hardcore" players.

 

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Registered: 2002-6-28 03:39:29
slythetove posted:

1. This 1800 should never have been introduced. Any idiot could tell you this was a terrible hideous "idea". Everyone with a brain must have been on vacation at Blizzard.
2. Since it was introduced it should never have been removed.
3. Since it was removed the extreme exploiters need to be addressed.

That's how I see it. YMMV.

--Sly



Just so we are clear, you are saying they should punish people for taking advantage of something they allowed?

 

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