VaultNetwork.netVault Network Boards
Author Topic: Blizzard: Forgetting how you got from A to B? [Locked]
Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
Unstruck posted:

Quazimortal posted:

The more you talk about your character being it's own entity, the more I am convinced you shouldn't have stopped taking your meds. Does your doctor know you broke out of your room to spread your crazy over the internet?

What you see on the screen isn't real life so you should stop pretending to be a magical elf because it only shows how crazy you are.



A character is no more equal to being the player than a corporation is equal to being the business signers. You may shape the entity's destiny, help it grow, and make decisions to influence its progression, but it is NOT you.

The puppeteer isn't his puppets. If you reread his post from that perspective, it makes a lot of sense.



Apples and oranges.

 

-----signature-----
“A painter paints his pictures on canvas. But musicians paint their pictures on silence.
We provide the music, and you provide the silence.” ~Leopold Stokowski
Diskent  1 star
Posts: 69
Registered: 2009-11-4 09:57:01
The main flaw with the OP's theory is that PC gaming is pretty much dead now. It is all platform now.
Cawlin  4 stars
Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
I haven't really read much of the thread aside from the OP and I will say:

Good post Gutter - and I am glad to see you presenting the truth of the matter that puts subscription records into better perspective in an expanding market.

That said, I will only offer discussion of the concept:

It's a fine line to walk when you try to make a game that provides enough excitement and challenge to the "elite" to keep them interested and to keep the buzz going through the gaming circles, while at the same time providing enough draw and something to strive for to the masses that is challenging, might not be achieved, but doesn't make the average player feel like they're wasting their time going for. I know that sounds like a lot of conflicting stuff but read it again if it didn't make sense.

I think that the perception of Cataclysm is likely as much a result of the effect of the pathetically easy WOTLK expansion as it is a result of poor execution and lack of unified vision on the part of Blizzard. Put simply, players are still shell shocked that it's not like WOTLK, and Blizzard's main talent has moved on. What's left is some attempt to recapture the elite gaming concept of the early days of WoW being executed by a group of ham-fisted troglodytes, being marketed to a bunch of cretins who want everything to be like it was in WOTLK.

This game is a cash cow - Blizzard knows that if it pretty much stopped all but basic maintenance on the game it will still be hugely profitable for at least 2 more years. It's a shame for those who love it, but that's my guess as to what's going on. The current dev team is being given too much latitude for their limited talent and they've basically turned it into their own little sandbox of ineptitude. Players continue to pay to play, lacking any compelling alternative (possible exception being Rift), and you have a product that is starting the downward decline. Admittedly, the game is getting a little long in the tooth - it will be hard to keep it fresh without dramatic shakeups which ultimately please some and displease others. I think fiscally, Blizzard is really not concerned with that though as I feel they're ready to put this one out to pasture and let the stud fees carry their development efforts of bigger and better projects.

 

-----signature-----
If ignorance were painful, half the posters here would be on morphine drips.
Everyone playing WoW knows everything about playing two classes: 1) their own and 2) Hunters
siujoey  2 stars
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
-Mythril- posted:

quazi take this for what it's worth from a neutral observer. You're getting your ass kicked. shhhhhhh, is my advice.

 

-----signature-----
I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
amar.keny
Posts: 4
Registered:
Great post! And totally agree.
takhteh
Title: Asthmatic Enemy of God
Posts: 3
Registered: 2001-11-5 11:18:11
OMG. Someone woke Broken. This will not end well.

 

-----signature-----
"Threads like these remind me that even trailer parks have internet access now." - Broken_Kayfabe
Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
takhteh posted:

OMG. Someone woke Broken. This will not end well.



He gets pretty riled up too, huh?

 

-----signature-----
“A painter paints his pictures on canvas. But musicians paint their pictures on silence.
We provide the music, and you provide the silence.” ~Leopold Stokowski
Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
Quazimortal posted:

takhteh posted:

OMG. Someone woke Broken. This will not end well.



He gets pretty riled up too, huh?

So you're either proud of your trolling or proud of your inability to grasp a basic concept. Which is it?

 

-----signature-----
WoW and DAoC - Too many alts to count
Charter Member - Altaholics Anonymous
Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
Ugh_Lancelot posted:

Quazimortal posted:

takhteh posted:

OMG. Someone woke Broken. This will not end well.



He gets pretty riled up too, huh?

So you're either proud of your trolling or proud of your inability to grasp a basic concept. Which is it?



 

-----signature-----
“A painter paints his pictures on canvas. But musicians paint their pictures on silence.
We provide the music, and you provide the silence.” ~Leopold Stokowski
Kriegprojekt  3 stars
Posts: 590
Registered: 2010-4-12 13:06:28
Broken_Kayfabe posted:

Quazimortal posted:

I understand perfectly.



No you don't. You don't understand the barest fraction of what I said. You're as far from understanding it as my dachshund is from understanding calculus.



Haha! You have a weiner dog.

 

-----signature-----
http://www.immortal-guild.com/
Deepstrike Server
Milkman - Guardian Bard

VaultNetwork.net is an independently operated community forum and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or technically based on IGN, GameSpy, FilePlanet, GameStats, or the former IGN/GameSpy Vault Network.
References to VaultNetwork.net mean this site/domain. VNBoards-style presentation is a visual homage only. By using this site, you agree to the forum rules.