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Author Topic: In your mind, what was the one overall change that you hated in WoW? [Locked]
The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
It still doesn't explain how the veteran, with years of observation and data about what the player looks for in such a game, got utterly crushed by the newbie who was only doing RTS games before.

The "WoW was made for 6 year old" argument is always amusing by the way, considering all who post here played (and paid for) the game for several years...

 

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Boone-Eldar  2 stars
Title: Infallible
Posts: 273
Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
Arcilite_I posted:

The_Korrigan posted:

Boone-Eldar posted:

Stating so does not make it true. I have already shown just with my immediate family it is not.

And even if it was true (which I don't believe it is), it still doesn't explain why WoW literally crushed EQ2, a game with as much if not more potential and similar monetary backup and marketing power. Except, of course, if you accept that WoW just... did it better.



LOL you're such a fanboy dude. Blizzard not only came out with WoW years after the MMO industry established itself but it had all that time to learn from the mistakes and advancements made. All Blizzard did was ctrl+c the solid and well tested aspects of other MMOs and combine it with lore from one of their RTS games.

You act like they reinvented the genre or something.



Yet no one else has managed to accomplish this incredibly easy task?

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Korrigan, It is most likely that it was different, rather than better.


Parachute pants outsold Levis for a period in the 80's...Because they were different. Because it was a change from the norm.


No one, however, will argue that they are a better product.


Edit: I will admit, that one of the lures for me regarding WOW was the ability to finally play the "bad guys" in an MMO..

Up until then players were always the "Humans and their allies" versus the NPC "orcs and trolls"...


different...not necessarily better.

 

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Boone-Eldar  2 stars
Title: Infallible
Posts: 273
Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
GutterSludge posted:

LOL....Boone..

It is proof through contradiction...

I don't have to prove a mathematical statement is true or false for all real numbers, by working it with every possible real number imaginable...I just have to find the one situation where it is not true, and then can state that no, it is not true for all real numbers.


I don't have to prove that every Internet user is an MMO player. All I have to prove is that to be an MMO player, you must have access to the internet.


The percentages take care of the rest.


Note: You keep saying "Potential" MMO player...to which I could state that every single human being on the planet is a "potential" MMO player, and the first step to becoming so is having internet connect-ability.



lol you know full well that most people do not even have an interest in playing video games, much less a massive multiplayer with a monthly fee.

But to admit such would toss your whole theory in the garbage so I don't expect you to do so.

Still haven't heard any comment on competition being left out of the equation...

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
The_Korrigan posted:

It still doesn't explain how the veteran, with years of observation and data about what the player looks for in such a game, got utterly crushed by the newbie who was only doing RTS games before.

The "WoW was made for 6 year old" argument is always amusing by the way, considering all who post here played (and paid for) the game for several years...



Where did I say it was made for a 6yr old?

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
GutterSludge posted:

Parachute pants outsold Levis for a period in the 80's...Because they were different. Because it was a change from the norm.

Yet one of you guy's main argument is that WoW only copy/pasted what other did before... therefore, they just copy/pasted the "norm". Could it be that your analogy doesn't make any sense and is like comparing apples to oranges?


GutterSludge posted:

No one, however, will argue that they are a better product.

In your opinion only. It's not because you personally don't like something that it's a bad/worse product, specially when all facts oppose your opinion.


Arcilite_I posted:

Where did I say it was made for a 6yr old?

I really don't have to answer to that, one just have to scroll up the forum thread to see it.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
Posts: 1,034
Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Ok Boone,

If there weren't more MMO players now than then, 12 million subs for ONE MMO would be literally impossible.

Growth in number of users directly correlates with growth in MMO players, period.


You can keep denying this, but your denial will not change the fact.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
Posts: 1,034
Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Korrigan, you have a choice...

you are playing/have played EQ...

choices EQ2..or WOW...


EQ 2 is the "norm"...WOW is "different"...

Walah.

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Please answer to Boone's question about competition. 3 games in 1999 when EQ and AC1 were released after UO. Dozens and dozens of games today. Yet WoW still literally crushes them all. How comes?

 

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Arcilite_I  4 stars
Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
The_Korrigan posted:

Arcilite_I posted:

Where did I say it was made for a 6yr old?

I really don't have to answer to that, one just have to scroll up the forum thread to see it.



No really, please quote where I said WoW is made for 6yr olds. I don't see it anywhere.

 

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