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In your mind, what was the one overall change that you hated in WoW? [Locked] |
The_Korrigan  Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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In your mind, what was the one overall change that you hated in WoW? |
You have to link me that post where I said that WoW is the best MMORPG OF ALL TIMES. Don't search, you won't find it.
Also, the difference between you and me, gutter, is that while my "top 2" are Asheron's Call and Ultima Online, I'm able to accept those games have aged and that another game, WoW, did many things just right. I'm also able to accept that despite back then, AC1 and UO are superior to EQ for me, EQ got more subscribers and therefore definitely did something right too.
All I have said (and still say) is WoW definitely did things right to access to such popularity, even if we disregard the Asian subscribers and only focus on US/EU customers. And this has nothing to do with marketing, but with game design, both for content and for polish. You don't attract flies with vinegar, says a saying in my country.
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Arcilite_I  Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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In your mind, what was the one overall change that you hated in WoW? |
The_Korrigan posted:
You have to link me that post where I said that WoW is the best MMORPG OF ALL TIMES. Don't search, you won't find it.
lol you can't even troll w/o copying someone else's posts....do you have any original thoughts of your own
Also ISO where I said WoW was made for 6yr olds. Or you could just admit that I never said that and you only put words in my mouth because you know I'm right.
I'll settle for either one.
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siujoey  Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-26 09:10:44
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The_Korrigan posted:
You have to link me that post where I said that WoW is the best MMORPG OF ALL TIMES. Don't search, you won't find it.
So you would be arguing the same point as Gutter and I: Just because it is the MOST POPULAR does not mean it is the BEST QUALITY.
There are other factors at play here.
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The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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In your mind, what was the one overall change that you hated in WoW? |
Arcilite_I posted:
Because when they ctrl-c'd the rest of the industry's work they ctrl-v'd it into a fantasy world that could be conquered by a patient 6yr old.
Copy/paste into a world a 6 yr old can conquer. Or do you deny it's you who posted that?
Now we can go back to serious argumentation, maybe?
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Boone-Eldar Title: Infallible
Posts: 273
Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
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siujoey posted:
The_Korrigan posted:
You have to link me that post where I said that WoW is the best MMORPG OF ALL TIMES. Don't search, you won't find it.
So you would be arguing the same point as Gutter and I: Just because it is the MOST POPULAR does not mean it is the BEST QUALITY.
There are other factors at play here.
See here what you guys don't get in your myopic world with blinders on. It may not be the highest quality game to you, or gutter or heck even me, but it is to millions and millions of more people than it is any other MMO. Quality is a subjective term in the MMO world.
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The_Korrigan Title: Scrub Buster
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Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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In your mind, what was the one overall change that you hated in WoW? |
siujoey posted:
So you would be arguing the same point as Gutter and I: Just because it is the MOST POPULAR does not mean it is the BEST QUALITY.
"Of all times" doesn't means the same than "of its time". What was true 10+ years ago is no longer true today, or one could also argue that the Mustang fighter during the second world war is a better war plane than modern F18 or other jet fighters. I prefer the Mustang for nostalgic reasons, but the F18 is definitely the better plane.
Give me a game modeled on UO, but with the same progress that WoW gave to the EQ genre, and I will subscribe without even thinking twice. Until then, a Ford T is not a better car than a Ferrari Enzo.
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Date Posted:
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In your mind, what was the one overall change that you hated in WoW? |
Ok, now that "best of all time" is out of the way, lets talk "marketshare".
If there were exponentially fewer computer users, and thus exponentially fewer MMO players "back in the day"...then it is insane to just look at "12 million subscribers" today and say WOW is the most successful ever, without comparing current day versus yesteryear.
Lets look at money for a second.
If a person made 5 million dollars in 1900....how would that compare with a person making 100 million today? This is a tough comparison, but it is not hard to understand that the person in 1900 made more money, in a relative sense, than the 100 mill of today.
Refusing to look at MMO subscriptions in the same manner is just flat out folly. I'm not saying WOW is not a great game. I'm not saying Blizzard is not a smart company. I'm not saying WOW is not successful...
I'm saying that to state that it is the "best, most successful" game of all time, based on the "12 million subscribers" number, is a fools errand.
There is much more to it than "well they have the most subscribers ever"...
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Arcilite_I Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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The_Korrigan posted:
Arcilite_I posted:
Because when they ctrl-c'd the rest of the industry's work they ctrl-v'd it into a fantasy world that could be conquered by a patient 6yr old.
Copy/paste into a world a 6 yr old can conquer. Or do you deny it's you who posted that?
Now we can go back to serious argumentation, maybe?
Saying something is made for a 6yr old and can be conquered by a 6yr old are two completely different things.
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Isoke Posts: 36
Registered: 2002-4-26 06:35:31
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1/1/00 12:04am
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Sigh. The original idea behind this thread was pretty interesting.
Now it's just a pie-fight between egos. Boring =/
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Ugh_Lancelot Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
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Boone-Eldar posted:
GutterSludge posted:
Boone-Eldar posted:
Internet User doe not equal potential MMO subscriber.
Boone, you cannot have one without the other. Of course it does.
/chuckle.
Stating so does not make it true. I have already shown just with my immediate family it is not.
Sample size lol...
[edit] Good grief. Some of you people have turned circular arguments into an art form.
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