lol and you obviously missed the point. There may be 700x more internet users during that time frame, but there is not 700x more available MMO subscribers.

Internet User doe not equal potential MMO subscriber.

Not only that you still have not acknowledged competition into the equation lol.





I am not arguing internet usage numbers and I never was.

 

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Was WoW just gifted 12 million subs?


Didn't they start, like any other game, with an alpha product and 0 subs?


I understand people resent Blizzard, I don't understand being in denial about it.


I'm hardly Blizzard's biggest fan, but they made a quality product as determined by people voting with their wallets (not people like me complaining about them on message boards).





I'm not sure people view themselves as chasing a carrot, or they have fun while they are doing it. What's the point of playing? I don't know, what's the point of watching Housewives from some place? To get enjoyment.


Your reason for 12 million players doesn't hold much water to be honest. Seems made up. Did YOU play WoW just because everyone else did? You don't have a gaming mind of your own? You didn't enjoy it?

 

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Honestly, AC's populations were dwindling, and I was looking for something new to do..(ironic isn;t it..as many are now looking for something new)

Having become disgusted with UCM and Turbine's lack of enforcement of their own rules in AC, I chose the Blizzard product for 3 reasons.

1. People. It was the newest and latest game, and many people from many genres were playing it. Cool. No more trying to strike up a conversation in a dungeon with a bot.

2. Blizzard. Having played Diablo 1 and 2, and SC, I knew that Blizz had no quams handing out permabans to cheaters.

3. I knew my computer at the time would run the product well.


I decided WOW was going to be my "new" game of choice before ever even playing it. Did I have fun? Sure I did. Of course, I had to be creative and find ways to progress other than the "forced grouping model", as I was already completely through with guilds before ever even logging in to WOW...

Who knows...If turbine would have banned UCM's from day one, I might not have ever even thought about WOW...Ultima Online was a blast..but when options other than "2 d and a half" we out there, I just couldn't do UO anymore.

What did NOT happen was a moment where I stopped in my tracks and thought, "This is the best MMO ever!!!"...

I will say that over the years, Blizzard has been my favorite Developer, and without a doubt the smartest company to ever hit the scene. They market like no other MMO ever has.

Best ever? If I were making a top 3 list, AC and UO would alternate between 1 and 2, for every aspect possible in an MMO except rule enforcement, and character restoration.. where Blizzard and the

permaban, along with a willingness/ability to restore lost items(other developers have always just said, "A bug caused you to lose an item? Tough #$%@" wins hands down.

Those two areas, however, are far from equivocating to the "best MMO ever".

 

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Boone, you cannot have one without the other. Of course it does.


/chuckle.

 

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Stating so does not make it true. I have already shown just with my immediate family it is not.

 

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And even if it was true (which I don't believe it is), it still doesn't explain why WoW literally crushed EQ2, a game with as much if not more potential and similar monetary backup and marketing power. Except, of course, if you accept that WoW just... did it better.

 

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LOL you're such a fanboy dude. Blizzard not only came out with WoW years after the MMO industry established itself but it had all that time to learn from the mistakes and advancements made. All Blizzard did was ctrl+c the solid and well tested aspects of other MMOs and combine it with lore from one of their RTS games.

You act like they reinvented the genre or something.

 

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Really? You're semi-insulting post once again evades the main point.
How does this explain that a veteran of the industry, who made EQ1 and had a lot of experience, a valuable and well known franchise, a lot of money and marketing backup, got beaten by total noobs in the MMORPG category then, when the two games were released the same month in November 2004?

 

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LOL....Boone..

It is proof through contradiction...

I don't have to prove a mathematical statement is true or false for all real numbers, by working it with every possible real number imaginable...I just have to find the one situation where it is not true, and then can state that no, it is not true for all real numbers.


I don't have to prove that every Internet user is an MMO player. All I have to prove is that to be an MMO player, you must have access to the internet.


The percentages take care of the rest.


Note: You keep saying "Potential" MMO player...to which I could state that every single human being on the planet is a "potential" MMO player, and the first step to becoming so is having internet connect-ability.

 

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Because when they ctrl-c'd the rest of the industry's work they ctrl-v'd it into a fantasy world that could be conquered by a patient 6yr old.

Of course you're going to come back with "How come every 6yr old that played didn't raid or have HWL" and that's simple. Not every 6yr old WANTED to do that or even knew it was part of the game.

So yeah.

 

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