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Arcilite_I  4 stars
Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
The dual server thing wouldn't work for the simple reason the raiders wouldn't have non raiders to condescend and show their gear off to.

A hen house isn't nearly as fun when it's filled with roosters.

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
chaddlock posted:

First what I like:
-The redone zones are amazing.
-The redone starter zones and story refreshes are amazing.
-Flying in 'Old' World is great!
-The new Cata released zones I think are all very interesting.
-I like the gear check that is in place to get into heroics.
-I like that tanking/healing is a challenge again.
-I like the rated BGs as its another option to arenas
-I like the new BGs
-I like that the PVP tiles are back
-Archeology is fantastic for lore people and to gather more BOAs
-The guild leveling system, as gutted as it ended up being, is still nice

Agreed on everything but the PvP which I couldn't care less about.


chaddlock posted:

What I don't like:
-They gutted the guild leveling/talent tree system.

Disagreed. I think the new system is better. Guild talent trees would only have lead to whining if the guild leader and officers had decided to take a talent some kind of minority didn't want. The actual system leaves no room for whining.

chaddlock posted:

-Path of the Titans is gone.

Heh, that's sad.


chaddlock posted:

As far as a few others that are saying that they want to try the new starwars I may still be down for that. Do we know of a release date yet? I to am looking into RIFT, and isn't there tera also? Starwars seems like it will be nice and comfortable (tank/dps/heal) but I am a little burnt on starwars themed products... time will tell.

I won't touch Rift with a ten foot pole now that I've been in several beta events, it's just another sub-par WoW clone tentative, but I'm also eagerly waiting for SW:TOR and also Guild Wars 2. Looks like GW2 will try to create a more dynamic world, with unexpected events happening, and I'm looking forward to that, while SW:TOR is a Bioware product, so it will most likely be high quality and worth trying and getting some chars through the story to max level even if it reveals not being a keeper after a few months. I expect SW:TOR to be similar LOTRO, but with better mechanics and even better story due to the Bioware Brand on it. Hopefully neither SW:TOR not GW2 will screw up the combat mechanics and dynamism, and make it as dynamic as WoW.

By the way - the people who didn't like the way the new zones in WoW:Cata work probably won't like Rift either. Rift is totally linear. It sadly also lacks the creativity and variety of WoW's quests.

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PS:
The idea of "easy mode WotLK" servers is hilarious. I thought WOW was easy, and everybody could faceroll it?
Truth is, as soon as presented with a challenge, most people retract into their "whiny casual" shell instead of trying to beat it. I suggest The Sims or Hello Kitty Online.

 

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Ugh_Lancelot  3 stars
Title: Ooo...bouncy!
Posts: 766
Registered: 2002-6-17 14:37:05
Phexx posted:

There is an easy solution to what I've seen to be the biggest problem with the X-pac.

Two server types.

One with the new* raiding type.

One with the WoTLK easy mode model.

This would be great for a lot of players. Hardcore raiders would have their home and casuals could have theirs. Those who consider themselves in between would be able to log into that scheduled guild raid on Tuesday night, and also log in for half an hour on Wednesday on the easy mode servers and feel like it was still worth it.


Nah, wouldn't work. Those of us in i245+ gear that carried pug nubs through our 15-minute frost runs wouldn't be there to carry them through Cata content. So, none of the folks on that server would ever gear up. Of course, if they did gear up, it would give the lie to the folks who claim everyone but them is a scrub. Might be interesting just to see that happen.


The_Korrigan posted:

I thought WOW was easy, and everybody could faceroll it?
Truth is, as soon as presented with a challenge, most people retract into their "whiny casual" shell instead of trying to beat it. I suggest The Sims or Hello Kitty Online.

heh...you (and others) trot out this false dichotomy every time you get the chance, conveniently omitting any other explanation or context. As amusing as it is to see a few folks get butthurt by that, can't you come up with anything better?

 

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Broken_Kayfabe  1 star
Posts: 248
Registered: 2002-2-16 01:05:01
The_Korrigan posted:

Truth is, as soon as presented with a challenge, most people retract into their "whiny casual" shell instead of trying to beat it. I suggest The Sims or Hello Kitty Online.



Post proof of your Sim with eight babies from eight different fathers or retract.

 

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Lanacan  3 stars
Title: Random, Crazy, Mental....
Posts: 789
Registered: 2002-2-19 17:27:59
Quit long before Cata came out.

No time to play and was not going to pay for it especially since LotRO is F2P and I was still having fun in that with the 3 hours/week I have to play any game.
Phexx
Posts: 32
Registered: 2002-2-26 13:56:27
jojo263 posted:

Raiding type servers wouldn't work out because only a small amount of people raid on each server and some of those raiding folks would rather not raid but only do it because they have time and want to progress their character. If you gave them the option they wouldn't play on a raiding sever.



Well then start off with one or two "raiding" servers and go from there.

I'm not sure I made it clear what the differences would be. Basically Easy Mode (Pre-Cata, Post-WoTLK) servers would be your norm. Post-Cata, Original WOW Raiding would be your new server type. you know, with the mana changes, actually needing to CC and think your way through a raid dungeon instead of AoE everything and rarely worry about dying.

At the very least, if this were put into play we'd all find out who the "real" raiders and the wannabes are

 

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Flesh_Wound  1 star
Posts: 86
Registered: 2002-8-21 11:30:42
I've dialed back a bit. I've actually had a little more fun replaying the old zones than I have bringing up my 85s. I've started a fresh reroll on a new server with no resources, just to try the experience anew, but I'm also the kind of player who likes leveling more than anything else, part of the reason (the other being a stunningly superior loot/tinkering system) that AC will always hold a place near and dear.

I'm mostly curious to see how quickly they patch additional content. I know it's not like guilds have heroic on farm yet, but it still feels content light to me (in terms of life at 85, of course). I'm guessing they're probably going to be pushing new stuff quicker than we're used to, which could be nice (or, you know, it could be a slow march towards facerolling and sadness).

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Spookysheep posted:

I still think that blizzard will lose enough subscriptions that they will have to wake up make dramatic changes to cata before all is said and done though.


New subscribers replacing old ones is no doubt their business model but I think those new subscribers will get to 85 pretty quick and 70% of them will leave (blizzards numbers, not mine). Their market research has already shown that 70% of those who try a new game like easy mode (from their own press release), because they quit before level 10 (hence all the changes to the starter areas).



I'd like to see the numbers on new subscribers. Anecdotally, at least on my server, I'm not seeing new subs. Outland and Northrend are invariably underpopulated. I went an entire 5-hour play session in Howling Fjord the other night and I saw exactly two other players in the zone.

 

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The_Korrigan  3 stars
Title: Scrub Buster
Posts: 955
Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
Newsflash: less than two months after the release of a new expansion, people are doing the new content and no longer the older content they've been doing during the previous two years.
You've read it here first.

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Where are people leveling up from 58-80 in the "new content?" I have several toons in those level ranges and I'd love to experience some of this new content.

 

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