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Blisteringballs  2 stars
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Registered: 2009-8-12 12:41:21
Quasi, I'm not trying to be rude, but is English a second language for you? I'm baffled how you're not getting this.

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
I'm baffled how you guys aren't getting it. It says it in plain English that if your account is canceled it is excluded from being counted as a subscriber.

 

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Trigeminal  2 stars
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Blisteringballs posted:

Quasi, I'm not trying to be rude, but is English a second language for you? I'm baffled how you're not getting this.



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Quazimortal  4 stars
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I would argue that if you can't understand that a canceled subscription is excluded from being counted as an active subscriber than English must not be your primary language. It's not even in hard to understand legalese and you guys still can't grasp the meaning of that paragraph.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
Quasi, by your logic, I have never been an "active subscriber", and therefore never had an active subscription.

 

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Blisteringballs  2 stars
Posts: 272
Registered: 2009-8-12 12:41:21
Anyways.

The official forums have been a humorous read since that earnings call went public. It seems like the moderators are deleting any thread that even references it.

 

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GutterSludge  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-11-6 10:54:55
No way!!

Eheee..deleting threads like that just make them look worse than if they just admitted people were pissed at them,imho.

 

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Broken_Kayfabe  1 star
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Registered: 2002-2-16 01:05:01
Quazi I am not going to go all troll on you and post insults or crap or anything of the sort. Your reading of it is not unreasonable. It IS wrong, though. Look at the list.


Blizzard posted:

"World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards.



Here's the potential statuses Blizzard mentions:

Subscribers:

paid their subscription fee
active prepaid card
free month newbies who purchased game
(internet game room players, not really comparable)

Not subscribed

Free promotional subscriptions
expired or canceled subscriptions
expired prepaid cards

First evidence - these categories fall into two explicit lines with no exceptions - the first group has all paid for time (Blizzard explicitly mentions buying the game as a part of it for the free monthers), the second has not. Your interpretation requires 'canceled' to be an exception.

Second evidence - 'canceled' is directly lumped in with 'expired' rather than made its own listing, which suggests they are considered similar. Expired accounts cannot log in, therefore it's reasonable to assume canceled accounts can't either. Suggests "canceled accounts" are those who have passed the end of the paid time, not before.

Third evidence - if "canceled but still playable" accounts aren't counted as active, then NO prepaid card account should be counted as active either, since they are the exact same thing. But accounts on prepaid cards are considered active.

I think most people would agree that Blizzard does not consider an account "canceled" until the account status actually changes, when the prepaid time runs out, and NOT when someone clicks on "cancel account".



If it happens that you are right and we are all wrong, then feel free to hit us all over the head with all the "I told you so"'s you want!

 

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Quazimortal  4 stars
Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
If a canceled account were the same thing as an expired account, which you are suggesting, then there would be absolutely zero need for clarification. The fact that both are individually mentioned it is logical to assume that a canceled account that still has play time would be excluded, exactly as it is worded.

 

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