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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," [Locked] |
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1/1/00 12:02am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
GutterSludge posted:
Quasi, by your logic, I have never been an "active subscriber", and therefore never had an active subscription.
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TruthyID  Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
Quazimortal posted:
If a canceled account were the same thing as an expired account, which you are suggesting, then there would be absolutely zero need for clarification. The fact that both are individually mentioned it is logical to assume that a canceled account that still has play time would be excluded, exactly as it is worded.
I think you're interpretation is wrong, understandable, but wrong. First, you're assuming that removing a recurring payment is the same thing as cancelling. I haven't seen anything to corroborate that assumption. Second, if an account was removed from the count as soon as a recurrent payment method was removed the term expired would be redundant. According to YOUR argument if they're both in there they must both be significant. This would suggest that cancelling is something else like having a csr delete the account outright.
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Shenron_  Posts: 543
Registered: 2002-12-8 21:34:16
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
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i recently opened my account again (right before they started sending those free come back for 10 days thing) and i noticed that all the new cataclysm zones are already mostly empty even during primetime. its really weird.
obviously theres still a lot of people standing around in stormwind and orgrimmar and instances but its weird that the outdoor zones are empty this soon
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
They're probably all in other phases.
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Quazimortal  Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
TruthyID posted:
First, you're assuming that removing a recurring payment is the same thing as cancelling. I haven't seen anything to corroborate that assumption.
You mean aside from the fact that when you choose to remove your recurring payment you click on a link called "Cancel Game Subscription"?
TruthyID posted:
Second, if an account was removed from the count as soon as a recurrent payment method was removed the term expired would be redundant.
It would show the difference between an account that has no game time left and one that still does but will be expired soon.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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So, quasi,
they COUNT Pre-paid cards, even though they "will run out soon"..
but don't count an account that is paid for by credit card, with the recurring cancelled...because "they will run out soon"???
I'm willing to hang with you until you finally understand this..but now all you have to do is really re-read your last post, and realize you just made the case against yourself.
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NeMeFieD said:" ea I Ucmed for 12 days straight.."
njwCSUS posted:I'm homosexual, so really, its ongoing sexual attraction to my father, not my mother. |
Quazimortal Title: The One and Only
Posts: 1,557
Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
GutterSludge posted:
So, quasi,
they COUNT Pre-paid cards, even though they "will run out soon"..
but don't count an account that is paid for by credit card, with the recurring cancelled...because "they will run out soon"???
I'm willing to hang with you until you finally understand this..but now all you have to do is really re-read your last post, and realize you just made the case against yourself.
When you use a prepaid card you are telling Blizzard, "Hey I want to play for this amount of time." Not once are you clicking a cancel subscription button.
When you use a credit card and then click the cancel button you are basically telling Blizzard, "Hey I quit."
Now maybe they have an option you can select letting Blizzard know you are only doing to to stop recurring payments in which case I would think it would be within their right to count it as an active account, but unless you choose that reason Blizzard is going to assume you are closing your account for good.
An expired account is one that has been canceled and run out of play time. A canceled account is one that has been closed but still has play time left. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
Subject:
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"I don't want my credit card billed" is one option in the cancellation.
When you use a credit card and then click the cancel button you are basically telling Blizzard, "Hey I quit."
No, I'm saying I don't like recurring billing, and I'll pay you again when this "subscription's paid for time (which IS counted!!!)" runs out.
Just EXACTLY like a pre-paid card.
We'll get you there eventually bro.
Edit: The game even REMINDS you that your subscription will still be active, until your paid for time(which is counted!!!) runs out.
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NeMeFieD said:" ea I Ucmed for 12 days straight.."
njwCSUS posted:I'm homosexual, so really, its ongoing sexual attraction to my father, not my mother. |
TruthyID Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
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Yes you click a button that says cancel my account. That doesn't necessarily mean that the account is canceled at the moment that the recurring payment is removed. The account is considered canceled when the time runs out.
The reason for the term expired is to catch players under the free month of play time. They don't have to cancel anything their time expires. The other language about promotional game time refers to the 7 free days type of program.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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"Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," |
I am marveling at the lawyering.
Ultimately, Blizz have confirmed that subs are down. Whether or not it might be a few more or less points is really moot. Subs have fallen, the sky has not. At least, not all of it. Yet.
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