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Tier 11 raids just got the Ret Paladin treatment [Locked] |
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Tier 11 raids just got the Ret Paladin treatment |
Quazimortal posted:
Mostly because they still have their horribad healing system. Hey guys let's make everyone's heal cast time 3 seconds long, that will be fun! 
Yea, most of these changes wouldn't be needed if they would just fix healing.
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Arcilite_I  Title: VN's Most Wanted
Posts: 1,260
Registered: 2002-1-27 08:46:24
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Tier 11 raids just got the Ret Paladin treatment |
They would have to admit (even to themselves) that healing is broken in order to fix it.
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Quazimortal Title: The One and Only
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Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Tier 11 raids just got the Ret Paladin treatment |
I still don't understand what was so bloody wrong with healing before the change. I was having a lot of fun during Wrath and then all of a sudden they decide to completely redesign the healing system.
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The_Korrigan  Title: Scrub Buster
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Registered: 2001-7-17 03:51:32
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Date Posted:
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Quazimortal posted:
I still don't understand what was so bloody wrong with healing before the change. I was having a lot of fun during Wrath and then all of a sudden they decide to completely redesign all the classes.
Let's be precise. And while it may surprise you, I somehow agree. While some class/spec combos got improved in my opinion (notably DK tanks, which are better than before even with the loss of ability to tank in frost and unholy), other got degraded (DK dps is less fun than it was in WotLK).
The game is still fun, healers still do just fine. We didn't have a single healer in my guild who changed to a non-healer class/spec because healing was no longer fun. Actually, two of our DPS switched to healer for a change and are enjoying it a lot.
Did the changes ruin the game, like some doomsayers pretend? Definitely not.
Were those changes needed, since all classes worked just fine in WotLK and were fun to play? Definitely not.
Instead of doing those changes, having to re-balance everything, and also dumb down the game concerning talent points, they should have focused their efforts on implementing the Path of the Titans.
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Quazimortal Title: The One and Only
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Registered: 2004-9-18 21:52:58
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Tier 11 raids just got the Ret Paladin treatment |
Healing is absolutely not fun right now.
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Spookysheep Title: Lieker of Cheese
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Registered: 2002-1-9 06:49:19
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The game was much more fun in WOTLK than in cata, especially healing, and just dungeon running in general.
And over 600,000 players agree, and it has not even been 6 months yet 
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TruthyID  Posts: 189
Registered: 2010-7-7 12:52:20
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Spookysheep posted:
The game was much more fun in WOTLK than in cata, especially healing, and just dungeon running in general.
And over 600,000 players agree, and it has not even been 6 months yet
I agree that healing's less fun than it used to be. But more importantly for me personally was the massive increase in the time required to get anything done in Cataclysm. The game in its current form just isn't conducive to having a career, family, friends, etc.. I just couldn't justify coming home after a long day and committing 2-3 hours to run a single heroic dungeon.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Tier 11 raids just got the Ret Paladin treatment |
Agreed, except I would change the last line to read, "I just refuse to come home after a long day and commit 2-3 hours to run a single heroic dungeon."
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Arunne Title: The Anonymous
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Registered: 2003-11-3 14:11:47
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GutterSludge posted:
Agreed, except I would change the last line to read, "I just refuse to come home after a long day and commit 2-3 hours to run a single heroic dungeon."
This pretty much sums up my feelings. My wife resubbed and has been playing again. After spending 40 minutes waiting on a queue, my wife finally got a random. I went to bed at 11 PM cause I was tired. My wife said she was halfway thru and would be up shortly. I turned the TV off around 11:45 and she still wasnt in bed. No idea what time she finaly finished.
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Boone-Eldar  Title: Infallible
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Registered: 2001-12-28 16:31:37
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TruthyID posted:
Spookysheep posted:
The game was much more fun in WOTLK than in cata, especially healing, and just dungeon running in general.
And over 600,000 players agree, and it has not even been 6 months yet
I agree that healing's less fun than it used to be. But more importantly for me personally was the massive increase in the time required to get anything done in Cataclysm. The game in its current form just isn't conducive to having a career, family, friends, etc.. I just couldn't justify coming home after a long day and committing 2-3 hours to run a single heroic dungeon.
I agreed with that statement when Cata first came out and was the reason I took a break, however after returning about a month ago and doing them again the Heroics are pretty faceroll right now. People for the most part outgear them, even in pugs and aside from the zandalari heroics, I am blowing through them in like 45 minutes. Last night I was in a heroic and the lowest DPS was me at 18k. Now that was by far the highest I had ever seen in a pug, but DPS, Tanks and Healers are certainly better geared in pugs than they were 3-4 months ago.
The queue times for DPS on non-zandalari heroics are usually only about 15 minutes now, however the Zandalari heroics are 30-45 minutes.
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