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Sin_of_Onin  Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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Koneg posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
Guns scare me, but explosives and hazardous chemicals are perfectly OK
I can't help it that guns scare you, but if you want this limitation allowed why aren't you peeing your pants over the fact that I can legally buy and transport explosives in my State - which means I can legally transport those explosives in every other State?
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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Cawlin posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
The comparison is stupid. If NYC decided they didn't want anyone to drive in Manhattan I couldn't drive my car in Manhattan just because I have a CT license.
Your understanding of the matter is flawed. Firearms permits (and driving licenses) are handled at the state level, not at the level of cities within a state. That is not to say that a city might not sometimes, in actual practice, dictate policy for the whole state (as is the case in New York), but this is a state issue, not a city issue.
So, if New York decided you needed to have a separate driver's license, even though you were licensed in Connecticut to drive within the borders of their state, you would support such a measure.
The two are not equal and the car analogy is stupid.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
I support States' Rights.
I know, you've made that clear.
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Jorrdan  Posts: 293
Registered: 2001-10-19 07:31:24
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The Driver's License analogy is flawed for me because I do not get a license in one state to go to another and use my car to kill people. While I support harsher gun control across the board (and perhaps equal for that matter), different states may have different gun controls in place at this time due to varying crime rates and circumstances. Reciprocity, as put forth here, allows me to circumvent one state's laws if I need to in order to get what I want to accomplish a means to an end. See Virginia vs. DC gun laws. If I'm not mistaken guns are purchased in Virginia and then carried into DC?
That said, regarding the specific article in question:
It is often quoted that ignorance of the law is no excuse. The marine is pleading ignorance of gun law. Should it not apply to firearm law in this case?
It is often quoted that if you are going to be a gun owner, you should know gun laws where you are going to be carrying as well as firearm safety in general.
Note: I'm repeating what I've heard gun owners state. I tend to agree.
My initial thoughts at any rate.
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Koneg  Title: Evil Genius
Posts: 894
Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
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Yukishiro1 posted:
The Constitution is just a piece of paper.
Noted.
Jorrdan posted:
The Driver's License analogy is flawed for me because I do not get a license in one state to go to another and use my car to kill people.
Wait... whut? A concealed carry permit does not give you the right to go anywhere and kill people so... wtf?
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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Comparing a law that is basically the same in different states to a law where they are vastly different among states, is not appropriate.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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So the lesson here is that one rule of reciprocity means that all permits should have reciprocity.
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Koneg Title: Evil Genius
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
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I have a Washington concealed carry permit.
I cannot legally cross the Oregon border with my weapon concealed upon my person because Oregon has no reciprocity, despite the fact that the licensing requirements are absolutely identical.
Hilarious: If I change my holster from a concealed inside-the-waistband carry to an open carry - I can now legally cross the border with the weapon on my person, because Oregon (like Washington) has unrestricted Open Carry.
This is retarded, and it needs to be fixed - but the idiots hear "gun" and completely discard all logic and reason in favor of unthinking fear. 
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Moe_Nox Title: In Moe We Trust
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
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Didn't this proposal come about because of some dude moving to the east coast that went to prison even tho he followed the law to the letter? Jersey or Connecticut osmethin
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Moe_Nox posted:
Didn't this proposal come about because of some dude moving to the east coast that went to prison even tho he followed the law to the letter? Jersey or Connecticut osmethin
I wouldn't be surprised if something like that did actually happen. New Jersey and California have some pretty absurd gun laws which were strict by even the now defunct Brady Bill laws.
It's good to see so many libs going on record as being in support of States' Rights though.
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