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Taliesihne  Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
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Precisely Tych. I'm not writing a thesis or crafting a platform. This is like talking with Baym - you answer a question and he proceeds to beat you over the head with it for like 4 pages. Booo-rrring.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
I won't ever advocate any sort of cut to any sort of government expenditures whatsoever.
Yeah we get it dude, but you're full of siht on the matter, so GTFO.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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I am the first to point out that cutting spending is hard and takes professionals to do it effectively. That the people and even the legislature is too far removed from the workings of an agency budget to the point that any change would be a shot in the dark. I am a big proponent of making agency budgets more transparent. To making it far more clear what a program does and how much it costs and where that money is going.
The Federal budget is so massive I would assume there is plenty of fat to be cut but what it is specifically and how to do it is a huge unknown.
The Department of Defense for example.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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Cawlin posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
I won't ever advocate any sort of cut to any sort of government expenditures whatsoever.
Yeah we get it dude, but you're full of siht on the matter, so GTFO.
Actually my position is that people know what they are cutting and why they are cutting it.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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And if I were an actual politician or in a position to do so, serious discussion would be understood.
But since this is essentially a thought experiment, I don't get why you are wholly unwilling to do anything but criticize.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Most of what you listed seems like shifts of responsibilities which seem rather arbitrary.
I don't get your IP argument.
An easier tax is possible but most flat tax ideas are just bad.
The idea that Congressional pay is a problem is just stupid. There are probably too many of them but one of the major problems we have is a lack of talent in the legislature.
I don't see much about DHS in your post Tali.
so you think higher pay will get more talent?
are you on fucking crack?
how much MORE do we have to pay for decent talent?
they should never make more than the average of the districts they come from.
and the president should be paid based on the national average.
if they want a raise, they can work at increasing the average pay (read: middle class).
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1/1/00 12:01am
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Taliesihne posted:
Suspending reality, if I had absolute authority to change things:
The TSA would be funded privately by the airlines.
The actual DHS is gone. Any major responsibilities they have can be given to the FBI counter-terrorism depts.
The DNI is gone as well. That was political retribution against the CIA anyway. Was never necessary. The information aggregation parts of the DNI would become a dept in the CIA.
The pentagon's operating budget I would take an axe too. I'd really trim the fat on the amenities that high ranking paper pushers get.
PMC would be reduced by 75% across the board. Military recruitment would skyrocket to fill the gap.
Wholesale reductions in IRS staff after simplification of the tax code (I actually like the idea of a flat tax.)
No more corporate welfare.
Cost plus would be gone from about 90% of govt contracts. Government contractors can now either get paid for their work\labor or maintain the IP on development they were tasked to do - not both.
The Labor Department and Department of Labor would be collapsed into a single entity.
20% reduction in presidential, cabinet, and congressional pay. If I really had my druthers, I'd tie Senatorial pay to the median income of their state.
Massive reductions in troops and bases abroad.
I could come up with more if I thought on it some, but there are some ideas.
Or in other words you are saying what is largely the Ron Paul platform.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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sweeny_comodore posted:
so you think higher pay will get more talent?
are you on fucking crack?
how much MORE do we have to pay for decent talent?
they should never make more than the average of the districts they come from.
and the president should be paid based on the national average.
if they want a raise, they can work at increasing the average pay (read: middle class).
What a stupid premise and a stupid idea.
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thats the best idea ive ever heard.
then they would have incentive to push the middle class higher.
a strong middle class would make a strong national economy.
without that incentive they are just greedy money grabbers and pawns of those with money.
how can you even think that giving them more money would do any good?
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