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Tipztoe  4 stars
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Why would you want to reburden the already-failing airliners with cumbersome security costs? Assuming the fed would set the security standards, it seems a bit much to put on the airliners.



why should people who don't fly have to pay for it?
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We are not cutting DHS because they are the ones who will come into your house and take....oops one second someone at the door.


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You will always be remembered Skinny.


 

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Thugoneous  4 stars
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And peop

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Sin_of_Onin posted:

Most of what you listed seems like shifts of responsibilities which seem rather arbitrary.

I don't get your IP argument.

An easier tax is possible but most flat tax ideas are just bad.

The idea that Congressional pay is a problem is just stupid. There are probably too many of them but one of the major problems we have is a lack of talent in the legislature.

I don't see much about DHS in your post Tali.



What would you cut?

Also, fwiw - I am talking about getting rid of half of the third largest cabinet.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Why would you want to reburden the already-failing airliners with cumbersome security costs? Assuming the fed would set the security standards, it seems a bit much to put on the airliners.



If it's a public service, make it a public service.

If it's a for profit enterprise, let it be a for profit enterprise.

I'm sick to death of keeping the airline industry afloat and getting such a horrific ROI. Put up or shut up time imo.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
Taliesihne posted:

Suspending reality, if I had absolute authority to change things:

The TSA would be funded privately by the airlines.

The actual DHS is gone. Any major responsibilities they have can be given to the FBI counter-terrorism depts.

The DNI is gone as well. That was political retribution against the CIA anyway. Was never necessary. The information aggregation parts of the DNI would become a dept in the CIA.

The pentagon's operating budget I would take an axe too. I'd really trim the fat on the amenities that high ranking paper pushers get.

PMC would be reduced by 75% across the board. Military recruitment would skyrocket to fill the gap.

Wholesale reductions in IRS staff after simplification of the tax code (I actually like the idea of a flat tax.)

No more corporate welfare.

Cost plus would be gone from about 90% of govt contracts. Government contractors can now either get paid for their work\labor or maintain the IP on development they were tasked to do - not both.

The Labor Department and Department of Labor would be collapsed into a single entity.

20% reduction in presidential, cabinet, and congressional pay. If I really had my druthers, I'd tie Senatorial pay to the median income of their state.

Massive reductions in troops and bases abroad.

I could come up with more if I thought on it some, but there are some ideas.



Throw in some campaign finance reform and lobbying reform and I'll start a fkn petition to get you on the ballot for the next election even though you're a smelly liberal.

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Tipztoe posted:

Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Why would you want to reburden the already-failing airliners with cumbersome security costs? Assuming the fed would set the security standards, it seems a bit much to put on the airliners.



why should people who don't fly have to pay for it?



Because its not in their interest for planes to fly into buildings?

 

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Sgian_Dubh  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-4-7 10:19:52
Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Tipztoe posted:

Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Why would you want to reburden the already-failing airliners with cumbersome security costs? Assuming the fed would set the security standards, it seems a bit much to put on the airliners.



why should people who don't fly have to pay for it?



Because its not in their interest for planes to fly into buildings?



The odds of me or anyone else being in one of these "buildings" is pretty damn slim.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Cawlin posted:

Throw in some campaign finance reform and lobbying reform and I'll start a fkn petition to get you on the ballot for the next election even though you're a smelly liberal.



No more economic special interest groups are allowed to petition the government. This would include unions as well as corporations and trade groups. Government representation and access is for citizens. Please note, business moguls and union thugs are free to band together and petition as private citizens, but they can no longer use multiple vehicles to do so.

Campaigns would be publicly financed - follow the Maine model. Tv and Radio stations would be required to donate ad time for free.

Please note, most of this is brainstorming type ideas - would take more time then I'm willing to commit to the Op atm. Nowhere near complete - SOO caught me a bit off guard, which is why I'm not responding to his criticisms.

Tbh, I would make a good politician. But I've lived life and have lots of baggage - it's not in the cards for me. Perhaps when I get old and stop playing soccer I'll run for local office.

 

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