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Author Topic: Why is DHS not on the chopping block? [Locked]
Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
So you think that politicians don't want to see their districts get richer enough? You think those from rich districts should get paid more than those from poor ones? You think that paying them less will produce better results?


Basically every assumption required to think this is a good idea is stupid.

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
Go back to pre 9/11 standing. No DHS at all.

I don't know how much money it will save (if any) as they may have just reallocated alot of expenditures from other departments, but it will eliminate some of the 'freedom' issues and big brother complaints.


Once that's done, then you can start looking at CIA, NSA, FBI, ATF, etc. At least it will be one less department to complicate reconciling where the money is going, and it should also please the less-government advocates.

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
Consolidation of various agencies into one umbrella agency is not necessarily a bad thing. It can be hard to save money right away and some times it doesn't work but there is no doubt that a lot of agencies should are all doing the same basic function.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/13/politics/obama-federal-government/index.html?hpt=hp_t3


It takes awhile to really remove the extra layers of management and make these agencies one agency but if that happens the capacity to leverage technology management increases so that efficiencies can be reached.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Sgian_Dubh posted:

Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Tipztoe posted:

why should people who don't fly have to pay for it?



Because its not in their interest for planes to fly into buildings?



The odds of me or anyone else being in one of these "buildings" is pretty damn slim.

That is not the proper response to fear mongering...


Please go back through citizen re-education and report back upon completion of your training.

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Sgian_Dubh posted:

Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Tipztoe posted:

Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Why would you want to reburden the already-failing airliners with cumbersome security costs? Assuming the fed would set the security standards, it seems a bit much to put on the airliners.



why should people who don't fly have to pay for it?



Because its not in their interest for planes to fly into buildings?



The odds of me or anyone else being in one of these "buildings" is pretty damn slim.


Well, that's only because one attack was successful.

What are the odds of you or anyone else being sent to some desert wasteland so you can piss on the corpse of a 16 year old before losing your legs in a roadside bomb because someone flew a plane into a building killing a bunch of period you never met? Or what are the odds of you losing your job or being unable to ascend your corporate ladder because the economy is so bad after the attack that it contributes to a global recession and plunges your country into $trillions of debt after invading that desert wasteland.

No thanks, I'd rather the free market weren't in charge of safeguarding a known security hole.

 

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