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GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
Posts: 1,060
Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
You didn't have to say it. We all know you got the vapors thinking about it. It cracks me up you come back to the money as the important factor when people on both sides are losing their lives. Can you be any more self absorbed or pathetic? But look who I am asking.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
Posts: 2,511
Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
Cry more GC. I think I see a tear forming up.




You are just pissy because I can troll you on this issue.

 

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_Gatto_
Posts: 44
Registered: 2001-12-21 00:48:15
Rikarus posted:

Tens years of war will change anyone, even the most upright soldier, Airman, Sailor, or Marine, I don't condone it, but I certainly having been there can understand why they might want to do it. They were howeer dumb giving in to their anger like that, andif it turns out it is legit and not some BS fake thing, they will get what is coming to them.


It's just to bad the media can't pay this much attention to how the entire government is pissing all over us. BUt that is on the script they get.



Agreed. Their actions, though inderstandable, are inexcusable. They are not to be condoned. In shot that is not who we are. There is no honor in it. That is not how I want my country represented. I do not know what the Marines use as tools to "program" their warriors but for the 20 years I served, the Army used: The Army Values, Leadership Traits, Army Ethics, Soldiers Creed, NCO Creed, Warrior Ethos, and more as guidelines towards building combat ready soldiers who would represent our country with pride and serve with honor. For the vast majority, it works, but then human nature comes into play and you can end up with behavior such as this... Again, it is wrong, its not to be condoned. There is no honor in it. Anyone excusing it or appluading it. Is an idiiot. It does not deserve all the attention and fanfare its getting. It should be handled swiftly, fairly, and publicly.
Modeeb  4 stars
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
You have been sold a line of BS (propaganda) if you think there is honor in organized killing.

 

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_Gatto_
Posts: 44
Registered: 2001-12-21 00:48:15
Modeeb posted:

You have been sold a line of BS (propaganda) if you think there is honor in organized killing.



Mo, I carry a weapon every night hoping that I never have to use it AGAIN.


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Modeeb  4 stars
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
I understand. However, we disagree. There are always grey areas.

 

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_Gatto_
Posts: 44
Registered: 2001-12-21 00:48:15
Modeeb posted:

I understand. However, we disagree.



"I come from the American Indian school where I honor the enemy I kill, even while I am doing everything to kill him and I may scalp him. However, I do not judge these men for their behavior. Pull the trigger or piss is just irony. Theirs was socio-cultural herd inculcated behavior. In general, it is best to not place yourself in a kill or be killed situation." - Modeeb


The decision and the act of killing are very hard things to to deal with once the dust settles. I did not say there was honor in organized killing. That redirect suits your argument. Not mine. What I said was that their behavior lacked honor. I can understand it but I cannot condone it.
__Bonk__  5 stars
Posts: 5,122
Registered: 2009-7-25 03:04:52
So many people dont know how native americans fought their wars. Its unbelievable the lack of knowledge of history most people seem to have

 

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eodoll  4 stars
Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
We are nvading them, we dont have to be there at all.

But its bad when we are the bad guys (invaders) and to top it off we have idiot kids peeing in dead bodies. We dont need people like this walking our streets.

Lock them up .
Aerlinthian  4 stars
Posts: 2,126
Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
A great and timely interview (12:00) that talks about our moral imperative in this endless war cycle we find ourselves trapped in.

http://youtu.be/WSFRQGwM6nk

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