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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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If he wasn't detained, how is it unlawful detention?

 

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Tipztoe  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-3-1 17:53:43
theredkay1 posted:

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How were any of those violated? I think the TSA is largely a waste of resources, but your argument doesnt work.



the government does not have the right to detain and search you without probable cause or a warrant

you mad?
Koneg  3 stars
Title: Evil Genius
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
Bowlartz posted:

You have no right to fly on a plane.

It's a good thing then that this has absolutely nothing to do with flying on planes.

 

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-Espiritu-  2 stars
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It is amazing to see an Obama-acolyte like theredkay1 embrace illegal detentions. Obama ran on the idea that President Bush's administration had gone too far in this regard, and then his own administration went even further down the rabbit hole.

 

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Tipztoe  4 stars
Posts: 1,775
Registered: 2004-3-1 17:53:43
I'll add, if the airport wants security, they should be paying for it themselves, and the people who use the service.

Why should people who don't fly have to pay for TSA to exist? (tax payers)

it stinks all the way around.
Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts: 1,117
Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Rights are not granted to you based on what you are engaged in. You are born with them. They are absolute.

You are born having the right to be free from illegal government detainment. Whether you are engaged in compulsory government service or are taking a trip to Bermuda is irrelevant.

 

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Sea_of_inK  2 stars
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Registered: 2004-10-18 12:57:37
-Espiritu- posted:

http://youtu.be/2XhnZlmLGK8

unlawful detention



Why would putting your breast milk through a scanner be that big of a deal? If you don't want to do that then put it in the correct sized containers.

I don't understand why there is so much resentment towards airport security. Do you all not see the purpose? Bowlartz I remember to be a mega fascist when discussing OWS but he's dead on right on this. If a police officer wants to breathalize you, he can, and if the airport security wants to pat you down or scan your breast milk, than they can.

If protocol is not followed or a TSA agent does not act professionally than there may be a legitimate complaint, but beyond that I don't have much sympathy. What do you all wish was different exactly?

Should there be no airport security? Do you think that if airlines provided the security instead of the gubmint things would be different?

*also she could've left at any time. That's not 'detention'.

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
Bowlartz posted:

He was never detained.

You have no right to fly on a plane.



The freedom to travel is an inalienable right. Government has no power to stop you from boarding a plane that you have contracted.

 

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Bowlartz  1 star
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" You have no right to fly on a plane.

It's a good thing then that this has absolutely nothing to do with flying on planes. "


It kinda does when people insist that their rights to unreasonable search are being violated when attempting to...fly on a plane. There is no unreasonable search involved. DUI Check points have been upheld by the SCOTUS more than once and easily mimic what is going on with the TSA and flying on planes.


"The freedom to travel is an inalienable right."

Method of said travel is in no way covered in the US Constitution, therefor it is left up to the legislative branch and has been held up by the US Supreme Court.

 

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Scarne  4 stars
Title: Capo di Scientifico
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Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
Sea_of_inK posted:

I don't understand why there is so much resentment towards airport security. Do you all not see the purpose? Bowlartz I remember to be a mega fascist when discussing OWS but he's dead on right on this. If a police officer wants to breathalize you, he can, and if the airport security wants to pat you down or scan your breast milk, than they can.


TSA agents are not officers of the law.

 

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