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Tipztoe  4 stars
Posts: 1,775
Registered: 2004-3-1 17:53:43
Bowlartz posted:

He was never detained.

You have no right to fly on a plane.



you also have the right to due process, immunity from illegal searches without cause or warrant, ,innocent until proven guilty etc


government shouldn't be doing this.

TSA is in clear violation of US citizens rights.
Crooq_Lionfang  1 star
Title: Master Zergling
Posts: 185
Registered: 2003-3-11 11:53:17
Friarspam posted:

In "normal" times I'd say that some flunkie at the TSA would be losing their job. This is a bit of a different deal, however.


Call me cynical, but I can see where partisan politics will turn this into some freak show. (from both sides)



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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:

ZigmundZag posted:

Damn, I'm not sure which side to root for here.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Tipztoe posted:

Bowlartz posted:

He was never detained.


You have no right to fly on a plane.



you also have the right to due process, immunity from illegal searches without cause or warrant, ,innocent until proven guilty etc


government shouldn't be doing this.


TSA is in clear violation of US citizens rights.



How were any of those violated? I think the TSA is largely a waste of resources, but your argument doesnt work.
imaloon1  3 stars
Posts: 674
Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
theredkay1 posted:

Tipztoe posted:

Bowlartz posted:

He was never detained.

You have no right to fly on a plane.



you also have the right to due process, immunity from illegal searches without cause or warrant, ,innocent until proven guilty etc


government shouldn't be doing this.

TSA is in clear violation of US citizens rights.



How were any of those violated? I think the TSA is largely a waste of resources, but your argument doesnt work.



You're not a lawyer Kay so stop trying to be one. Even Yuki agrees with the dubious nature of the TSA's ability to detain citizens.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Comply with their demands and surrender your rights as a citizen or dont utilize their services?


Is that the new american way?

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
Posts: 1,266
Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Don't go over to someones house and expect to play by your rules. The airports have every right to secure themselves from rabid Congressmen.

 

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Bowlartz  1 star
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Registered: 2006-1-4 19:59:15
"Maybe not, but it's still not what America is supposed to be about. This is the kind of stuff we make fun of when it happens in other countries. Jokes on us."


You need a license for a car. Driving is a privilege, not a right. Flying is the same way.

The TSA can not walk around the streets or go into people's houses and search or detain them. You are volunteering to use a mode of transportation that has now been deemed with reasonable evidence to require that passengers be checked before boarding.

If you don't want to be searched...don't fly. If you don't want to pay car insurance...don't drive.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
I don't think anyone argues with the need to ensure safe air (or vehicular) travel. It's the means by which such safety is "ensured" that is at issue here.

 

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-Espiritu-  2 stars
Posts: 269
Registered: 2004-11-29 18:27:00
http://youtu.be/2XhnZlmLGK8


unlawful detention

 

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