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Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
Rosaria posted:



I'm very interested in Norse mythology! My cousin was teaching it to elementary students at her school. The children each chose the name of a Norse god then had to do research [in an interesting manner] and present it to the other students, who were doing the same. It led to very lively discussions and to this day some of her students wish to be called by their Norse name in class. Martin Luther I could not get interested in, even when I visited Worms and historical sites related to him. I don't know why.

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I love the word Mythology, especially when believers use it to describe another religion.

We always had a big classroom brawl about who got to be Tor, I wanted it so badly until I read about Tyr.

Yeah he's a bit stuffy, the happenings around him weren't.. 30 year war in particular.

 

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_Enkidu_  2 stars
Title: Zen Badger
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Registered: 2001-12-24 05:02:15
Manegarm posted:

I love the word Mythology, especially when believers use it to describe another religion.



A personal favorite of mine, as well!


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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Rosaria posted:

If you believe Buddhists pray to spirits you will have to show me documentation for it, because in all the research I've done I've never seen it stated.



Here's an example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Heavenly_Kings

If you just want to fight over definitions and say many buddhists worship saints or devas or some other word but not gods that's not an argument I'm particularly interested in. Many Buddhists clearly pray to and worship supernatural beings.

Then there's the whole jodo shinshu thing where you can be saved just by repeating a prayer to the buddha. I don't know what you want to call that but I'd call it worship.
Bobvillas  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
Mormons are not Christians!!!

I have not read this thread and I hope I am on track.

My odds are pretty good.

 

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smellymotor  3 stars
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Registered: 2004-9-12 04:15:23
what if you're praying just to have a chat with your bro in the sky?

 

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Mastara  4 stars
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wow

 

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Z-Elder  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
When a Buddhist prays they are wobbling.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
Posts: 2,537
Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Rosaria posted:

... there is no god, there is no heaven or hell, there is no divine retribution, there is no fear of a godlike wrath, there is no one to intervene for you when you die, there is no one to guide to you an afterlife, you will not be rewarded in a heaven because there is none, you will not be punished in hell because it does not exist, there is only this life as we know it, you can choose to be conscious and be harmonious with yourself and all sentient beings or you can choose to be ignorant, something you seem very comfortable with.

Careful Rosa - you might start sounding like me

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Rosaria posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

Rosaria posted:

There are no entities that buddhists pray to.



This is clearly an unequivocally wrong as a general statement. In fact, the majority of buddhists in the world probably do pray to gods or spirits or whatever you want to call them. Only a very small percentage to buddhists throughout history have practiced a form of buddhism that had no place for gods or spirits.

Buddhism is like any other religion. It started in a very pure form that was probably not really a religion at all. But like all successful religions within a few generations people were back to worshipping saints/spirits/devils like people are wont to do the world over.

They do not pray to spirits. Spirits if they exist are inferior to human beings and human beings are considered to be an idealized form of existence. If you believe Buddhists pray to spirits you will have to show me documentation for it, because in all the research I've done I've never seen it stated.



you clearly have no idea what you are talking about
you should stop now before you just make yourself look even dumber.

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
I generally avoid religion threads as they tend to be contentious in a boring way. I peeked into this one when it got to three pages and it seems pretty typical.

Here's how I look at things. Marcus Aurelius...


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Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

 

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