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illmyrin Posts: 705
Registered: 2001-12-25 11:52:26
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I saw a brilliant interview with the Saudi King explaining he felt his countries chief responsibility was to ensure this nation's oil remains available to his country well into the next phase of humanity's power technology. If nothing else, the Saudis have very good attitudes towards their resource priorities.
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imaloon1 Posts: 674
Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
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Bowlartz posted:
imaloon1 posted:
A. 2017 is not 2012 and has no basis in reality for those production goals in Iraq.
B. I can only tell you so many times that no matter what Saudi Arabia may say about their plans to increase production it is false, they are running flat out and injecting water into their super giant fields as we speak in order to keep pressures up high enough to maintain what production they even have.
C. I'm sorry that you think you have an argument but using CNN to make your argument means that you actually do not in fact have an argument.
So you will just ignore everything that disproves your view, common around here. You still can't explain for one second why hypersensitive oil markets didn't budge on this news. A pipeline fire in Nigeria would have had a 5 dollar plus effect yet Iran not delivering to 6 of 27 countries in Europe doesn't even move them a bit.
Either Iran's announcement is meaningless as I surmise or you know more about the oil markets than the oil markets themselves.
Rosaria just explained the market reaction to you. If my dagger in the heart reference is still giving you fits I rescind it. I meant it in a metaphorical sense anyway but it appears lost.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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The US, along with and in support of Israel, is the god damn idiot in this situation.
Our embargo is a fricken sham, all it does is allow the State Dept. to hand out special privileges to connected people and companies to do business with Iran, and make it look like we are "being tough" on them. On our side anyway, on the Iranian side it has led to much higher prices, shortages of basic goods, and repression of the people, and their movement to create a real democracy.
It's such total BS. The constant saber rattling by the military and the neo-cons AND the Democrats who see a profit in it for themselves, either financially or in the voting booth, is ridiculous. Absolute and total nonsense. Iran poses no threat to the US, at all, none. Ok, maybe about as much as Switzerland does, or maybe Botswana.
Iran is ripe for secular minded democracy, it would already be there (it already WAS there) if not for the US and it's stupid war mongering BS. Our government seems to want to prop up the insane Mullahs and radical theocrats who currently rule the country.
Why? Lots of reasons. They see doing so as "Pro-Israel" and that plays well in the voting booth and in campaign donations. It allows them to dole out those special privileges to conduct trade and all the campaign money that brings in. It gives them a reason to continue spending obscene amounts of money on the military and all the campaign money that brings in from defense contractors and associated industries. It makes some of those old men feel young, tough and viral again (Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran). It keeps Americans afraid of shit, and afraid people will allow you to do anything to "save them". And finally, it's been a plan to subjugate the country for so long inside of DC, that the career GS corps is full of people who can't imagine doing anything else.
Iran will be fine, if we just leave them the hell alone, stop the embargo crap, and just let the people of Iran fix their own god damn problems.
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eodoll Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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We need an enemy and we need a reason to spend money and continue our imperialistic agenda overseas.
Lastly we need cheap goods, the best way to get cheap goods from other countries is to take the power away from the common person and to give power to a bunch of crooks.
It happens here in the US where 95% of the weslth is controlled by 1% of the people.
Its the same over there except their 99% have very few rights, their 60% are basically prisoners.
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Bowlartz Title: Offical VN Tin Foil Hat Supplier
Posts: 221
Registered: 2006-1-4 19:59:15
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Rosaria posted:
Bowlartz posted:
I just did the math. Iran's move is essentially meaningless. That is why Oil had zero reaction to it unlike when Israel bombs them. Oil will shoot up 100 bucks a barrel inside of 10 minutes once that happens.
Oil futures will not perform that way just as they did not during the seige, sorry I meant liberation, of Libya. There are built in mechanisms and rules in place that would stopgap any horrific change in oil prices in one day or one trading session. Oil prices will continue to gently spiral upwards over the next several months but there will be no 14$USD/gallon overnight nor over a week for that matter.
Oil prices due to Libya rose 20 dollars a barrel at the time. The only reason it didn't have more of an effect was due to when it happened, between the home heating oil and spring heavy driving seasons of the US which is late Feb-Mar. I have no idea where you get the idea that situation had no effect it most certainly did.
Contrary to that situation, Iran's announcement has had zero, none, nada, zip effect.
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Date Posted:
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"Israel and its Western allies charge that the moving of centrifuges to a mountain site said to be impregnable by bunker-busting bombs is a sign that Iran is trying to hide parts of its nuclear program."
You can't have it both ways, dumbasses. You can't claim your aggressive posturing is because Iran threatened to "wipe you off the map" and then criticize Iran's defensive posturing when you've threatened to bomb the very complex they're attempting now to protect.
Of course, no one ever accused Israel of not being complete and utter hypocrites of the highest order.
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imaloon1 Posts: 674
Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Bowlartz posted:
Rosaria posted:
Bowlartz posted:
I just did the math. Iran's move is essentially meaningless. That is why Oil had zero reaction to it unlike when Israel bombs them. Oil will shoot up 100 bucks a barrel inside of 10 minutes once that happens.
Oil futures will not perform that way just as they did not during the seige, sorry I meant liberation, of Libya. There are built in mechanisms and rules in place that would stopgap any horrific change in oil prices in one day or one trading session. Oil prices will continue to gently spiral upwards over the next several months but there will be no 14$USD/gallon overnight nor over a week for that matter.
Oil prices due to Libya rose 20 dollars a barrel at the time. The only reason it didn't have more of an effect was due to when it happened, between the home heating oil and spring heavy driving seasons of the US which is late Feb-Mar. I have no idea where you get the idea that situation had no effect it most certainly did.
Contrary to that situation, Iran's announcement has had zero, none, nada, zip effect.
You do realize the strategic importance of Libya vs Iran right? Their refining capacity? Their output in barrels?
Of course you do I'm sure of it....
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Modeeb Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
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Some of the most intelligent people I have met are Iranian. I tend to believe what Ptilk says in this instance. I might go a step further: The Secular will eventually hang the Ayoltollahs or at least put them in their place, which is in a friggin mosque. There is more here than meets the eye. I never understood why Pakistan can have a bomb and Iran cant.
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cabbyman Posts: 441
Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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I can't wait until Iran is burning.
BURNING IN THE HELLFIRES THAT IT CREATED!!!!!!!
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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The US has been hoping for a long time that Iran will revolt but I think the US is better off just stealing their smart people.
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