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imaloon1  Posts: 674
Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
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Ashmaele posted:
imaloon1 posted:
What are they supposed to do? Put up with the sanctions that Europe was originally NOT going to enforce until WE stepped in?
Not openly supporting terrorist organizations would be a good start.
For the record who gives a good goddamn who they support? Last time I checked the hijackers weren't Iranian they were Saudi...
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illmyrin Posts: 705
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imaloon1 posted:
What are they supposed to do? Put up with the sanctions that Europe was originally NOT going to enforce until WE stepped in?
They're supposed to just say umm ok... ya even though we've let every inspector known into our facilities and it's shown time and time again that we're not enriching uranium to weapons grade levels you're still trying to IRAQ us with your sanctions, we'll just stop being a country and start being a vassal...
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http://vnboards.ign.com/Boards/Message.aspx?brd=22180&topic=113982563&start=113991744
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Congressman Ron Paul Speaks Out AGAINST War With IRAN - April 2006
44:16 - 4 years ago
Ron Paul addresses the House of Representitives against the bi-partisan tide of war-mongerers. He gives an excellent historical case on why and how this deception of an "Iran Threat" is being laid on the public. He addresses U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, the recent elections in Pakistan, the nuclear capabilities of India, Pakistan, North Korea and Israel. He also goes in depth at the economic consequences to the Average American, and how Congress has forfeighted its "powers to declare war" to the administrative branch.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7456931596878368112#
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Bowlartz  Title: Offical VN Tin Foil Hat Supplier
Posts: 221
Registered: 2006-1-4 19:59:15
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imaloon1 posted:
Ashmaele posted:
imaloon1 posted:
What are they supposed to do? Put up with the sanctions that Europe was originally NOT going to enforce until WE stepped in?
Not openly supporting terrorist organizations would be a good start.
For the record who gives a good goddamn who they support? Last time I checked the hijackers weren't Iranian they were Saudi...
Stood up? The EU is going to be FULLY invested in a 100% Iranian Oil embargo starting in 5 months...Iran could only muster a half-hearted "We beat you to you it!" embargo of only 6...yes only 6 Euro nations. Hardly standing up to anyone. Saudi Arabia is not pumping near capacity and can easily make up the 2.6 million barrels a day that Iran puts out. This doesn't even touch the increase Iraq will be seeing over the next 12 months with their goal to go from 3 million a day to 12 moving in increments over the next 5 years.
So yea, those Iranians sure did...show everyone today. 
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imaloon1 Posts: 674
Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
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Iran is not messing around |
Bowlartz posted:
imaloon1 posted:
Ashmaele posted:
imaloon1 posted:
What are they supposed to do? Put up with the sanctions that Europe was originally NOT going to enforce until WE stepped in?
Not openly supporting terrorist organizations would be a good start.
For the record who gives a good goddamn who they support? Last time I checked the hijackers weren't Iranian they were Saudi...
Stood up? The EU is going to be FULLY invested in a 100% Iranian Oil embargo starting in 5 months...Iran could only muster a half-hearted "We beat you to you it!" embargo of only 6...yes only 6 Euro nations. Hardly standing up to anyone. Saudi Arabia is not pumping near capacity and can easily make up the 2.6 million barrels a day that Iran puts out. This doesn't even touch the increase Iraq will be seeing over the next 12 months with their goal to go from 3 million a day to 12 moving in increments over the next 5 years.
So yea, those Iranians sure did...show everyone today.
I don't know where you get your oil numbers but they're made up. Just like your argument.
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Bowlartz Title: Offical VN Tin Foil Hat Supplier
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Registered: 2006-1-4 19:59:15
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http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/13/news/international/exxon_mobil_iraq/
"Iraq has plans to increase its oil production capacity to about 12 million barrels a day by the end of 2017 from current capacity of just over 3 million barrels a day."
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/01/2012123195338448179.html
"Saudi Arabia, the world's top producer, said this month it would increase production by about two million barrels per day.
Dorsa Jabbari reports on concern on Tehran's streets
The effort to take Iran's 2.6 million barrels of oil per day off international markets has kept global prices high, pushed down Iran's rial currency and is causing a surge in the cost of basic goods for Iranians."
I just did the math. Iran's move is essentially meaningless. That is why Oil had zero reaction to it unlike when Israel bombs them. Oil will shoot up 100 bucks a barrel inside of 10 minutes once that happens.
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imaloon1 Posts: 674
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A. 2017 is not 2012 and has no basis in reality for those production goals in Iraq.
B. I can only tell you so many times that no matter what Saudi Arabia may say about their plans to increase production it is false, they are running flat out and injecting water into their super giant fields as we speak in order to keep pressures up high enough to maintain what production they even have.
C. I'm sorry that you think you have an argument but using CNN to make your argument means that you actually do not in fact have an argument.
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reesescups  Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
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imaloon1 posted:
C. I'm sorry that you think you have an argument but using CNN to make your argument means that you actually do not in fact have an argument.
This part I have to kind of agree with...
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eodoll Posts: 1,028
Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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I hope iran can build thousands of nuclear bombs. They clearly really need them.
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Rosaria  Title: They call me Mellow Yellow, quite rightly.
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Registered: 2003-8-22 10:07:30
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Bowlartz posted:
I just did the math. Iran's move is essentially meaningless. That is why Oil had zero reaction to it unlike when Israel bombs them. Oil will shoot up 100 bucks a barrel inside of 10 minutes once that happens.
Oil futures will not perform that way just as they did not during the seige, sorry I meant liberation, of Libya. There are built in mechanisms and rules in place that would stopgap any horrific change in oil prices in one day or one trading session. Oil prices will continue to gently spiral upwards over the next several months but there will be no 14$USD/gallon overnight nor over a week for that matter.
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Bowlartz Title: Offical VN Tin Foil Hat Supplier
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Registered: 2006-1-4 19:59:15
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imaloon1 posted:
A. 2017 is not 2012 and has no basis in reality for those production goals in Iraq.
B. I can only tell you so many times that no matter what Saudi Arabia may say about their plans to increase production it is false, they are running flat out and injecting water into their super giant fields as we speak in order to keep pressures up high enough to maintain what production they even have.
C. I'm sorry that you think you have an argument but using CNN to make your argument means that you actually do not in fact have an argument.
So you will just ignore everything that disproves your view, common around here. You still can't explain for one second why hypersensitive oil markets didn't budge on this news. A pipeline fire in Nigeria would have had a 5 dollar plus effect yet Iran not delivering to 6 of 27 countries in Europe doesn't even move them a bit.
Either Iran's announcement is meaningless as I surmise or you know more about the oil markets than the oil markets themselves.
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