NuEM posted:
I think you are too eager to dismiss "fear". Yeah "we" (whoever that is) fear a nuclear Iran. Some of "us" are likely to act at some point based on their fear and there's nothing the rest of "us" can do to stop them.
I know what game Iran is playing. Or rather what game those pulling the strings in Iran are playing, the various factions. Do they have the ability to make the right move when it counts? Or are the forces of the game too strong?
As far as I'm concerned Europe should stay out of this. But can we? Even if we'd be willing to? What's going to happen in Syria? That could tip the balance either way.
NuEM I hear you, and I feel badly, but we are all going to be dragged into this. I dismiss fear because it has proven over and over to be a horrible basis for diplomacy and interaction between states. Iran's economy is crashing, their currency is crashing, who do you think they're going to hurt? They can't pay their bills, they can't even bank on an international level. Their assets have been frozen. They now have one trading partner because we pushed them there. By 'we' I mean the West. The EU and US says you can't have not only our goods but you can't have access to your assets. China says, its no problem we'll buy them from you and barter with Iran for their oil. China gets oil. That's the game we are playing. How can we complain when we set that up?
I am not stating without reservation that Iran will not bomb Israel. No one can guarantee that. Between Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran the entire region [this includes some of Africa] is destabilized. I honestly can't think of how to foster stabilization other than through exposure and through trade. I find the drum beating in the US very disheartening.
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