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Z-Elder  Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Yukishiro1 posted:
It would be interesting to see where her money goes. She lives alone in a house out in the woods. Does she have a mortgage payment still? Is the house much bigger than it needs to be so she spends too much money on heating? SSDI should give her access to medicare, so health costs shouldn't be a huge part of things.
16,000 a year for a single person with health care in what is obviously a low cost of living area doesn't seem all that ridiculously poor to me.
Yes there is something strange here. I could very easily live on $1350 a month if you are covering my medical.
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Szerek  Posts: 338
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Z-Elder posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
It would be interesting to see where her money goes. She lives alone in a house out in the woods. Does she have a mortgage payment still? Is the house much bigger than it needs to be so she spends too much money on heating? SSDI should give her access to medicare, so health costs shouldn't be a huge part of things.
16,000 a year for a single person with health care in what is obviously a low cost of living area doesn't seem all that ridiculously poor to me.
Yes there is something strange here. I could very easily live on $1350 a month if you are covering my medical.
You realize that medicare doesn't "cover your medical". Medicare Part B is $115 / month assuming you opt in when it is first available, otherwise your premium goes up every year you don't opt in. This does not give you Part D (prescription) which is separate. And generally, you are responsible for 20% of medical bills and certain deductibles.
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Cawlin  Posts: 1,759
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It's very possible she's one of those folks who either doesn't know what she may qualify for or refuses to accept what she qualifies for, but the article makes it seem like she would take whatever she qualified for, if she were aware of it.
It's also very possible that the inquiries about possible assistance she's made to this point have been to the wrong places/offices and that the employees she's spoken to at those facilities have simply declined to tell her where to apply or how to apply properly. That's a pretty common thing to have happen too...
Or... it's possible that she just doesn't qualify for assistance.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Yeah. Although in practice you can just not pay the 20% co-pay and if you are really hard up no one is going to press you for it. And everything you said about healthcare costs is equally applicable whether or not you work.
But I totally agree that health care costs are by far the biggest threat to low income people. The woman in this example would be totally completely screwed if the gubmint wasn't picking up most of her healthcare tab.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Yeah. Although in practice you can just not pay the 20% co-pay and if you are really hard up no one is going to press you for it. And everything you said about healthcare costs is equally applicable whether or not you work.
But I totally agree that health care costs are by far the biggest threat to low income people. The woman in this example would be totally completely screwed if the gubmint wasn't picking up most of her healthcare tab.
Considering that temperatures have gone below freezing overnight and for much of the day for the most of the days & nights over the past several weeks and she's without heat, she sounds pretty screwed.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Cawlin posted:
Or... it's possible that she just doesn't qualify for assistance.
I don't see how based on those numbers. Even with the minimum SSDI benefit she's got to get at least 6k/year from that. So that leaves only 10k in income. That's well within qualification for section 8. PA actually sets aside special housing specifically for disabled people too.
But like I said, less than 25% of qualifying people get section 8. It is not the entitlement you seem to think it is.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Cawlin posted:
Considering that temperatures have gone below freezing overnight and for much of the day for the most of the days & nights over the past several weeks and she's without heat, she sounds pretty screwed.
She's gotten food and heat apparently from neighbors.
Also she is eligible for a heating subsidy as well. Either she has not applied or it isn't enough but again I'd like to see where the money is going. Maybe she still has a mortgage? Or it's one of those old houses that costs 500/month to heat? I really don't know but it would really help to see the breakdown of her current expenses.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Cawlin posted:
Or... it's possible that she just doesn't qualify for assistance.
I don't see how based on those numbers. Even with the minimum SSDI benefit she's got to get at least 6k/year from that. So that leaves only 10k in income. That's well within qualification for section 8. PA actually sets aside special housing specifically for disabled people too.
But like I said, less than 25% of qualifying people get section 8. It is not the entitlement you seem to think it is.
I am advocating for her to get housing assistance. I don't know why you think I'm denigrating this "entitlement".
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Cawlin posted:
Considering that temperatures have gone below freezing overnight and for much of the day for the most of the days & nights over the past several weeks and she's without heat, she sounds pretty screwed.
She's gotten food and heat apparently from neighbors.
Also she is eligible for a heating subsidy as well. Either she has not applied or it isn't enough but again I'd like to see where the money is going. Maybe she still has a mortgage? Or it's one of those old houses that costs 500/month to heat? I really don't know but it would really help to see the breakdown of her current expenses.
Would you turn the same accountant's eye to generational non-working welfare recipients about how they spend their money?
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Cawlin posted:
Would you turn the same accountant's eye to generational non-working welfare recipients about how they spend their money?
Sure. Especially if the claim is they arn't getting enough money to live on.
Although the thing to remember about them is there are children involved. No one gets welfare any more for just sitting around doing nothing unless they have kids.
Things get a lot more complicated when there are kids involved.
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