Yukishiro1 posted:
I don't get why you keep going on about black babies.
Your basic argument that non-working poor have it easy and working poor have it hard is both largely inaccurate and not illustrated by this example. This woman is closer to what you term non-working poor than working poor. There really is almost no such thing as a poor person who doesn't work at all any more, unless they're on 100% disability. The people you term non-working poor are much more likely to be about like this woman - part-time workers who depend on government largesse to get by.
The real difference in the system is not between workers who don't depend on handouts and "non-workers" (i.e. people who work but depend more on handouts than working income). The real difference in the sysyem is that "non-workers" with kids get a much better deal than either "non-workers" without kids OR working poor, because we think kids shouldn't generally be punished for who their parents are.
This is an excellent exercise for you Yuki, remember how this works. See, this is what I said:
Cawlin posted:
There are millions of Americans like her who work as much as they can, who can barely or not quite make ends meet, who are left out in the cold by our assistance programs for which they can't qualify. She's working poor, and she has been forsaken by our system in favor of those who don't work at all, and in favor of those who make 1,000 times her annual income.
You don't get to pretend like my argument is about something else just because you want it to be.
That is my argument. We give more in corporate welfare and tax breaks to people who make incredible sums of money, and we give more in welfare and assistance to people who don't fkn work at all than we give to people like this woman who do work but who don't make enough to really make ends meet but who make too much to actually get our sympathy.
You keep on bringing up this concept of punishing the children (which of course is more overdramatization) but in reality, you're perfectly comfortable punishing this disabled woman. She even voted fkn democrat ffs dude...
Oh and another thing, you can say that the UK's welfare model is not like the US's welfare model all you want but that doesn't make it true. This woman would be better off if she were fully disabled or if she didn't work at all because at least she'd have some fkn heat and food that she didn't have to beg off her neighbors directly, and that's the plain truth of it.
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