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SoBaKi  Posts: 487
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
Having a long term energy strategy is very important for the government and it has less to do with going green and more to do with long term economic efficiency.
The US has had the DOE pursue this for neatly forty years, it had failed and will continue to fail because it stupidly believes that government is smarter than the free market
It is time for the DOE to DIE
The US has faced 2 major energy crisis in its time and the free market not government solved both of them
It is time to kick government out of the energy market before it really breaks something
Dude, you're seriously a stupid phuck. The free market didn't solve anything but build stock options and making rich people even richer.
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
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Tych2 posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
Tych2 posted:
Politicians. They will get my wrath in the form of my not voting for them.
Politicians don't control gas prices.
Of course they can control it. Do you think the most powerful man in the world would just sit on his hands? They can set policy to discourage or encourage some types of activities. They choose not to.
Wait....wut?
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Tych2  Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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I am not sure what words you don't understand, but here...
http://dictionary.reference.com/
HTH
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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The problem is the US has been built up in such a way that the cities are not well suited for public transportation. Not to mention the fact that the price differential between public transportation and taking your car is not big enough.
One area we should address IMO is the use of oil to heat homes. We should have a goal to switch over homes from oil to natural gas or electricity over the next couple decades. The conversion costs a lot so it would have to be subsidized. It is not a great option but it is easier than fixing transporation.
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theredkay1  Posts: 611
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Historically the US had had 2 major energy crisises, wood and whale oil. Both time the free market not government has solved the problem
Interestingly alcohol based fuels were the first replacement for expensive whale oil.
The civil war happened and the government slapped a big tax on alcohol to pay for things. This turned out to be a massive subsidy for the fledgeling oil industry.
The whaling industry took hold in Europe via quasi-government monopolies backed by the King/Queens navy. England got its whaling industry off the floor by taxing the hell out of imports.
Your free market magic genie is very slippery. Your two examples really disprove the point you are trying to make.
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DemonicXH Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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SoBaKi posted:
Dude, you're seriously a stupid phuck. The free market didn't solve anything but build stock options and making rich people even richer.
Wait so capitalism actually works??! OH MY GOD THE TRAVESTY.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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SoBaKi posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
Having a long term energy strategy is very important for the government and it has less to do with going green and more to do with long term economic efficiency.
The US has had the DOE pursue this for neatly forty years, it had failed and will continue to fail because it stupidly believes that government is smarter than the free market
It is time for the DOE to DIE
The US has faced 2 major energy crisis in its time and the free market not government solved both of them
It is time to kick government out of the energy market before it really breaks something
Dude, you're seriously a stupid phuck. The free market didn't solve anything but build stock options and making rich people even richer.
read a history book and stop being so ignorant
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
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Tych2 posted:
I am not sure what words you don't understand, but here...
http://dictionary.reference.com/
HTH
It's not the words Tych2, it's how YOU'RE using them. Or not, as the case may be.
You ask for solutions, but no one, not even the rocket scientists, have a good answer. Oil has been up to this point, an extraordinarily efficient power source that pretty much every human being could utilize. It is going to be very difficult to replace it, but it MUST be replaced.
Politicians cannot dictate it's use, you know this.
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
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DemonicXH posted:
SoBaKi posted:
Dude, you're seriously a stupid phuck. The free market didn't solve anything but build stock options and making rich people even richer.
Wait so capitalism actually works??! OH MY GOD THE TRAVESTY.
Oops, yes, if that was the metric you want to measure. 
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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SoBaKi posted:
It is going to be very difficult to replace it, but it MUST be replaced.
I couldn't agree more.
SoBaKi posted:
Politicians cannot dictate it's use, you know this.
dictate the use of oil? What I would like the politicians to do is to stop being the world's police and use that money to research other forms of energy. That is something they can do 100%. They are the only ones that can do that.
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