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eodoll  Posts: 1,028
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The ither problem is asia. Their oil requirements will go up and if they become like us but with 10x the need then there will ge no oil left.
So we can go to war with all of asia to reduce the price of oil.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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imaloon1 posted:
On a side note there is a very real solution.
Thorium powered Molten Salt reactors that are small enough to be installed on about an acre of land and provide 10-50 MW of power generation...
That coupled with EV's and we could seriously dent our dependence on oil.
Does this work? Lets do this. Get it done! 
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theredkay1  Posts: 611
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Brother_Tempus posted:
theredkay1 posted:
The 'free market' solved them with higher prices and economic slowdowns.
You are confused, that is happening now with a government run energy market
So in your imaginary world the free market genie would not respond to increased demand and increased cost of producing the supply with higher prices?
How would it respond? Would there be ponies? My daughter would love a pony.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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eodoll posted:
Do republicans want to socialize the oil business?
no
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Tych2 posted:
imaloon1 posted:
On a side note there is a very real solution.
Thorium powered Molten Salt reactors that are small enough to be installed on about an acre of land and provide 10-50 MW of power generation...
That coupled with EV's and we could seriously dent our dependence on oil.
Does this work? Lets do this. Get it done!
It would do a little on its own. Unless you also bought an electric vehicle it wouldn't do much, though. 
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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New plan!
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imaloon1 Posts: 674
Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
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Tych2 posted:
imaloon1 posted:
On a side note there is a very real solution.
Thorium powered Molten Salt reactors that are small enough to be installed on about an acre of land and provide 10-50 MW of power generation...
That coupled with EV's and we could seriously dent our dependence on oil.
Does this work? Lets do this. Get it done!
Yep the reactor ran for something like 25 THOUSAND hours at Lawrence Livermore I believe. They shut it down for no apparent reason and instead of going with the proven foolproof design they went instead with the massively over complicated Uranium light water reactors and we ended up with Fukushima, Chernobyl and Three Mile Island. Of which I barely count Three Mile Island but w/e...
I know it's old hat but the Chinese have recently invested a TON of money into Thorium tech.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Well sure. But that's a long-term solution. Not something the president can wave a magic wand over tomorrow.
the government has had nearly 40 years to implement a solution, that is very ling term ... It has failed
doing the same thing and hoping for a different result shows how insane these technocrats and their indoctrinated flock if sheep are and how dangerous
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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As is common in these kinds of threads - conservatives getting utterly destroyed by logic, empirical evidence and history - but nonetheless plowing ahead completely undeterred. 
Obama's green energy initiatives are dead, done, over, finished barring some sort of miracle where the GOP loses the House and doesn't win the Senate (nor control > 40 seats) this year AND Obama gets re-elected. Oil companies are shutting down refineries because of excess capacity. Speculators know this and are using this opportunity to help drive up prices. Free marketeers want Obama to "fix it" but they don't say how. If he proposes price caps (which would never pass Congress anyway by virtue of the fact that it's Obama proposing them) then he's OMGZOCIALISM! and if he does nothing he doesn't care. Just like Bush, he can't win no matter what.
As has been said in this thread already, we had the chance 40 years ago to embrace alternative energy and instead we chose to DRILL BABY DRILL our way past peak oil and somehow that is the fault of the people who advocate embracing alternative energy. It makes no sense.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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imaloon1 posted:
On a side note there is a very real solution.
Thorium powered Molten Salt reactors that are small enough to be installed on about an acre of land and provide 10-50 MW of power generation...
That coupled with EV's and we could seriously dent our dependence on oil.
What about the hydrogen fuel cells we heard about a few years ago? Bush actually mentioned these as a solution but it never went anywhere and I don't hear anyone pimping that idea today at all.
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