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paulg_68  4 stars
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The unconstitutionality angle was argued ad nauseum here on the Outpost prior to the passing of the bill.

 

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Let the courts decide.

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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Collectivists and neocons both despise the US constitution. They have made that abundantly clear over the decades.
Bjorvald  2 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

It's not unconstitutional. At the time no one thought it was unconstitutional. RWNs only latched onto the idea it's unconstitutinoal after they lost the legislative fight.



Woah dude.. That is some SERIOUS revisionist history there.

 

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Blue_arrow  2 stars
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IMHO posted:

Conservatives hate America. Overturning Obamacare proves this fact.



The ObamaCare Waivers List is truly an embarrassment.
http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2011/05/obamacare-waivers-list-2011.html

Of the 204 new Obamacare waivers President Barack Obama’s administration approved in April, 38 are for fancy eateries, hip nightclubs and decadent hotels in House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s Northern California district

Pelosi’s district secured almost 20 percent of the latest issuance of waivers nationwide

Other common waiver recipients were labor union chapters, large corporations, financial firms and local governments. But Pelosi’s district’s waivers are the first major examples of luxurious, gourmet restaurants and hotels getting a year-long pass from Obamacare


Café Mason, a diner near San Francisco’s Union Square, got a waiver too. When The Daily Caller asked the manager about the waiver and how the president’s new sweeping federal health care law was affecting his restaurant, he hung up the phone. The Franciscan Crab restaurant on Fisherman’s Wharf in San Francisco got a waiver. Its menu features entrees ranging from about $15 to $60. The Franciscan’s general manager didn’t return TheDC’s requests for comment.

Four-star hotel Campton Place got one too, as did Hotel Nikko San Francisco, which describes itself as “four-diamond luxury in the heart of the city.” Tru Spa, which Allure Magazine rated the “best day spa in San Francisco,” received an Obamacare waiver as well.

Before hanging up on TheDC, Tru Spa’s owner said new government health care regulations, both the federal-level Obamacare and new local laws in Northern California, have “devastated” the business. “It’s been bad for us,” he said, without divulging his name, referring to the new health care restrictions.

But, the spa owner wouldn’t talk about it or the reason his company sought a waiver. He hung up after saying, “I’ve got clients on the other line, good-bye.”


Pelosi needs to address this matter. "No comment" isn't going to fly.


If ObamaCare is such a great system why are so many waivers being sought and granted?

 

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Blue_arrow  2 stars
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http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2010/10/obamacare-waivers.html

The United Federation of Teachers -- one of President Obama's key political backers -- is the biggest beneficiary of a White House sweetheart deal that will exempt certain outfits from complying with new health-care rules

Big labor spent millions of dollars pushing ObamaCare, which they made sure was stuffed full of union giveaways," said Patrick Semmens, spokesman for the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, which represents businesses.

"So the fact that the largest waiver now belongs to New York teachers union bosses might be funny if the rest of America wasn't stuck complying with the bill's onerous mandates."


What's the deal with anyone losing insurance? The selling point of ObamaCare was that no one would lose their coverage. Guess that turned out to be total crap.

 

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-Espiritu-  2 stars
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Obamacare was written by United Healthcare/Aetna/BCBS. You know the companies that created the desperate situation where we needed federal intervention. IMHO loves big health insurance companies, just like Obama.

 

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hopefully it fails

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

The unconstitutionality angle was argued ad nauseum here on the Outpost prior to the passing of the bill.





Of course it was. But not much until it became clear the RWNs in Congress couldn't defeat the bill legislatively.

Also, most of those same RWNs were all for a mandate before Democrats were for it. They clearly didn't see any problem back in 1992 when it was their main counterargument to Hillarycare.
Sezyrrith  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-7-13 05:04:05
Blue_arrow posted:

http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2010/10/obamacare-waivers.html

The United Federation of Teachers -- one of President Obama's key political backers -- is the biggest beneficiary of a White House sweetheart deal that will exempt certain outfits from complying with new health-care rules

Big labor spent millions of dollars pushing ObamaCare, which they made sure was stuffed full of union giveaways," said Patrick Semmens, spokesman for the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, which represents businesses.

"So the fact that the largest waiver now belongs to New York teachers union bosses might be funny if the rest of America wasn't stuck complying with the bill's onerous mandates."


What's the deal with anyone losing insurance? The selling point of ObamaCare was that no one would lose their coverage. Guess that turned out to be total crap.

Who's losing coverage there? What I see is:

Article posted:

Thirty companies and organizations, including McDonald's (MCD) and Jack in the Box (JACK), won't be required to raise the minimum annual benefit included in low-cost health plans, which are often used to cover part-time or low-wage employees

 

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