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__Bonk__  5 stars
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See what the court rules. If its ruled unConstitutional then it is unAmerican

 

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paulg_68 posted:

Legislators that pass laws that violate the Constitution should be stripped of their right to pass laws.





 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Neither Bush or Obama are legislators

 

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stevenmeadowsin  1 star
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Registered: 2005-12-13 09:50:27
I'm interested to see how this goes.

Obamacare is terrible law but healthcare needs to be overhauled. We don't even have the political will to balance a budget over a 10 year period of time so basically we are eff'd.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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Upheld or not, the bill already has done the damage it was intended to do. If Obama passes a bill that results in the death of all first born white male boys and the supreme court rules against it 3 years later Obama already got what he wanted.

 

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feelips
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Registered: 2009-6-1 19:51:50
You don't have to wait for the supreme court to declare a law to be unconstitutional to know that the law is bad.

If the supreme court were to declare it to be constitutional it would set a terrible precident and open the door to future legislation such as this. Any law that requires citizens to pay a private company for a service that they may not use is bad. Declaring this law to be constitutional grants the government permission to pass nearly any law requiring citizens to pay corporations for any service they may not use.

If this is declared constitutional, corporations would lobby for legislation requiring citizens to pay for food insurance so every gets to eat, housing insurance so everyone gets a home, clothing insurance so everyone gets clothed, etc...

Just as miners used to live in company towns, paid in company money, shopped in company stores, liberalism will have fomented the worst of everything they have preached against. We would only exist to benefit the corporate masters.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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It's not unconstitutional. At the time no one thought it was unconstitutional. RWNs only latched onto the idea it's unconstitutinoal after they lost the legislative fight.

It may or may not be a good bill but it certainly isn't unconstitutional. I predict 7-2 upholding it. If it goes 5-4 the other way it will just prove Bush-Gore was not an outlier and the current court really does value politics over the law when push comes to shove.
paulg_68  4 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
Yukishiro1 posted:

At the time no one thought it was unconstitutional. RWNs only latched onto the idea it's unconstitutinoal after they lost the legislative fight.


Talk about some revisionist history.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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It's true. RWNs actually wanted to do the mandate themselves back in 1992. And in 2008 the fight wasn't over the constitutionality until they lost the fight. When someone brought up the constitutionality during the legislative debates pretty much everyone ignored it on both sides because everyone knew it was within their powers.

P.S. George Washington also forced every white male to buy a gun and ammo back in the day. How's that for a pedigree.

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