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Elkad  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-9-11 22:20:55
paulg_68 posted:

Legislators that pass laws that violate the Constitution should be drawn and quartered.




Fixed

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
__Bonk__ posted:

Obamacare going before Supreme Court Tomorrow

Why on earth is this even going before the Supreme Court?


Oh yeah - Rule #3...

 

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Voodoo-Dahl  2 stars
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JarkeldRuneblade posted:

So I got curious and looked back at old posts from around the time the bill passed the House and Senate. Very little (if any) talk about the constitutionality of the legislation.

The talking points were different, mostly about death panels, shoving it down the American peoples throats, giving healthcare to illegal immigrants, etc. The constitutionality seemed to be a later talking point.



This. During HCR debate it was all big lie propaganda and well poisoning from the right. After they lost then came the court challenges.
Elkad  2 stars
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I distinctly remember the complaints that it would force us to buy a product from a private party.

No other law has gone that far.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

The unconstitutionality angle was argued ad nauseum here on the Outpost prior to the passing of the bill.



Let me guess by who - the birthers and truthers?

 

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Voodoo-Dahl  2 stars
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Elkad posted:

I distinctly remember the complaints that it would force us to buy a product from a private party.

No other law has gone that far.



Like liability car insurance?
reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Yukishiro1 posted:

paulg_68 posted:

The unconstitutionality angle was argued ad nauseum here on the Outpost prior to the passing of the bill.





Of course it was. But not much until it became clear the RWNs in Congress couldn't defeat the bill legislatively.

Also, most of those same RWNs were all for a mandate before Democrats were for it. They clearly didn't see any problem back in 1992 when it was their main counterargument to Hillarycare.

PLus - I bet the provisions that are (if any) considered unconstitutional are the ones requested by the Reps for the compromise - that they then backed out of...


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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
Voodoo-Dahl posted:

Elkad posted:

I distinctly remember the complaints that it would force us to buy a product from a private party.

No other law has gone that far.



Like liability car insurance?

No one is forced to buy liability insurance unless you own a car. No one is forced to buy a car. You know this has been brought up before.

That being said I support a single pay system.

 

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Elkad  2 stars
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Posts: 407
Registered: 2003-9-11 22:20:55
Voodoo-Dahl posted:

Elkad posted:

I distinctly remember the complaints that it would force us to buy a product from a private party.

No other law has gone that far.



Like liability car insurance?



I can think of at least 3 ways around that one.

Don't drive on public roads.
Move to Virginia (possibly some other states as well) and post a bond yourself.
Don't get pulled over or have accidents when you do drive.

 

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Kamdar  1 star
Posts: 147
Registered: 2001-10-7 05:01:29
Elkad posted:

Voodoo-Dahl posted:

Elkad posted:

I distinctly remember the complaints that it would force us to buy a product from a private party.

No other law has gone that far.



Like liability car insurance?



I can think of at least 3 ways around that one.

Don't drive on public roads.
Move to Virginia (possibly some other states as well) and post a bond yourself.
Don't get pulled over or have accidents when you do drive.



Come on Voodoo..stretch that 80 IQ and think of something more ignorant than your current argument!

 

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