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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head [Locked] |
cabbyman  Posts: 441
Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Man oh man you really NEED this to be about race, don't you! 
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Ardenwolfe Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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cabbyman posted:
I would argue that the dead body proves that someone could handle themselves just fine.
Wow. 
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vn_nnanji  Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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And you really want to pretend its not.
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cabbyman Posts: 441
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Everyone is black in the dark.
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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I don't mean racism at the scene. I don't know or care. I mean what drives your need for seeing it the way you do. I can only assume a reason for your bias.
That's the one I am beginning to assume.
My position is clear and has been well stated. Race notwithstanding;
vn_nnanji posted:
This kid is dead because Zimmerman is an asshole with a gun. If he couldn't handle the situation without killing an umnarmed kid then his fat wanna be Barney Fife ass should have been home, unarmed, watching Hawaii 5-0 and getting a chubby when they say "Book him Danno!"
This was not some guy minding his own business. This was a cop wanna be out looking for something to have more cop wet dreams about. This time it got out of control and a kid got dead.
Barney Fife is responsible for that. Even if they eventually find him not guilty of anything he still got someone killed by being armed and stupid. Your contention is that the kid deserved it for throwing some punches. Even if he did throw some punches...what kind of watch Captain can't defend himself against a 17 year old kid? How is deadly force needed unless Barney Fife has no business confronting people in the first place?
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Z-Elder  Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
GrilledCheez posted:
Tych2 posted:
Man a lot of you guys are going to hurt yourselves stretching so much.
This whole thread is embarrassing but also illuminating when you think of why people think the way they do. The issue has split along pretty predictable lines IMO. With the only person I'm really surprised about being old man Z. But he's old, crotchety, and some kind of slum lord I think, so clearly his bias may be apolitical.
I just have young guys out there right now and every night following suspects. I have also had men and women at lobby desks get punched by people who didn't like to be stopped or questioned. So while it sucks to see a young kid killed I also know that people just trying to do their job get into tight spots. I had one guard hear a noise in an underground garage so he waited near a post. Up comes a guy riding the guards bike. Of all the chains to cut and bikes to steal he took the guard's. Next thing you know they are fighting over the bike with the guard being beat on the head with his own tire pump! Lol. It is nuts at night in the city.
In this case I am stuck believing the witness John who talked to Martin and even told him to stop beating Zimmerman. Until we know who actually started the fight I see self defense in the guy on the bottom getting beat.
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Z-Elder Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Date Posted:
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vn_nnanji posted:
I don't mean racism at the scene. I don't know or care. I mean what drives your need for seeing it the way you do. I can only assume a reason for your bias.
That's the one I am beginning to assume.
My position is clear and has been well stated. Race notwithstanding;
vn_nnanji posted:
This kid is dead because Zimmerman is an asshole with a gun. If he couldn't handle the situation without killing an umnarmed kid then his fat wanna be Barney Fife ass should have been home, unarmed, watching Hawaii 5-0 and getting a chubby when they say "Book him Danno!"
This was not some guy minding his own business. This was a cop wanna be out looking for something to have more cop wet dreams about. This time it got out of control and a kid got dead.
Barney Fife is responsible for that. Even if they eventually find him not guilty of anything he still got someone killed by being armed and stupid. Your contention is that the kid deserved it for throwing some punches. Even if he did throw some punches...what kind of watch Captain can't defend himself against a 17 year old kid? How is deadly force needed unless Barney Fife has no business confronting people in the first place?
No question you are right. Zimmerman is an idiot and should never have gotten that close, especially while armed. There was No need to.
As I have said I'd guess the HOA will lose a civil case.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:11am
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
NM thread #14 on this subject covers this topic
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cabbyman Posts: 441
Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:12am
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
If you remove color from the scenario altogether this is just a case of one guy defending himself from a vicious beating.
That's how I'm looking at it. 
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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A vicious beating that left almost no marks, apparently.
If you remove color from this you still have Barney Fife as a wanna be with a gun.
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