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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head [Locked] |
Groucho48  Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Bonzoboy1 posted:
eodoll posted:
Yeah, next time you see the president drive by, try exiting your vehicle and running after him waving your gun. Watch what happens.
Zimmerman was waving his gun? Is there any proof of that other than in your fevered imagination?
There is as much evidence showing that Zimmerman had drawn his gun as there is evidence that Martin started the fight.
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Tych2  Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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 Man a lot of you guys are going to hurt yourselves stretching so much.
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885
Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
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Date Posted:
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Groucho48 posted:
There is as much evidence showing that Zimmerman had drawn his gun as there is evidence that Martin started the fight.
So there is no evidence of anything, including a crime?
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls
Posts: 1,060
Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
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Tych2 posted:
Man a lot of you guys are going to hurt yourselves stretching so much.
This whole thread is embarrassing but also illuminating when you think of why people think the way they do. The issue has split along pretty predictable lines IMO. With the only person I'm really surprised about being old man Z. But he's old, crotchety, and some kind of slum lord I think, so clearly his bias may be apolitical.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
There is as much evidence showing that Zimmerman had drawn his gun as there is evidence that Martin started the fight.
So there is no evidence of anything, including a crime?
Well, we do have a dead kid with a bullet hole in his chest and a guy who admits shooting him. The police did virtually no forensics, so, we don't have much more than that. My understanding is that to claim self-defense, you have the burden of proving it was self-defense, but, the way the Florida law is written, if you do prove it, you can sue Florida for tons of money, so, Florida police departments have little or no incentive getting involved in a case where self-defense is claimed.
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Bonzoboy1 Posts: 885
Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
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I don't believe he has to prove that is was self defense because he is innocent until proven guilty, it is the job of the State to prove he is guilty.
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
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Self defense has a minimum burden that has to kick in via the defendant's affirmative proclamation and evidence, but once that is met the state has to disprove self defense by the reasonable doubt standard. I'm shocked that all you experts didn't know this.
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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1/1/00 12:11am
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Dcomad posted:
vn_nnanji posted:
cabbyman posted:
Martin is dead because he attacked a guy who had a gun.
He shouldn't have done that.
No, Martin is dead because someone who shouldn't have had a gun had a gun.
You cannot prove what you state yet because you don't have all the facts. I can.
Wow. No one can prove anything substantial about this. That's part of the problem.
I can't prove anything and neither can you.
Why did I even respond to this thread? 
I can prove you're a dumbass who either can't read or just cut that out of context because he didn't want to deal with what I actually said. Luckily my point that a dead body proves someone didn't know how to handle himself was true when I said it then and when I say it now.
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cabbyman  Posts: 441
Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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vn_nnanji posted:
Dcomad posted:
vn_nnanji posted:
cabbyman posted:
Martin is dead because he attacked a guy who had a gun.
He shouldn't have done that.
No, Martin is dead because someone who shouldn't have had a gun had a gun.
You cannot prove what you state yet because you don't have all the facts. I can.
Wow. No one can prove anything substantial about this. That's part of the problem.
I can't prove anything and neither can you.
Why did I even respond to this thread?
I can prove you're a dumbass who either can't read or just cut that out of context because he didn't want to deal with what I actually said. Luckily my point that a dead body proves someone didn't know how to handle himself was true when I said it then and when I say it now.
I would argue that the dead body proves that someone could handle themselves just fine.
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vn_nnanji Title: Outpost Music Expert
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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A good xxxx is a dead xxxx eh Cabby?
Kid goes to store ends up dead and you call it a happy ending.
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