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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head [Locked] |
Z-Elder  Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
The HOA sets the rules for this community. Zimmerman is basically their guard. He followed a new kid in the area. If that kid turned on him...
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ZigmundZag  Title: Grammar Nazi
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
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poetkiosk posted:
I think that's the real flaw in this law. You only get one side of the story.
I've always heard in a self-defense shooting to make sure you kill the target because you don't want to leave another side of the story. It's just that this usually applies to a home invasion scenario rather than a crackpot from the neighborhood watch.
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Tipztoe Posts: 1,775
Registered: 2004-3-1 17:53:43
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if you're being harassed, you need to use proper channels.. why didn't he just call the cops...
instead he chose violence which was his undoing.
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Ardenwolfe  Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
Z-Elder posted:
The HOA sets the rules for this community. Zimmerman is basically their guard. He followed a new kid in the area. If that kid turned on him...
We know from eye witnesses that Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following him. We don't know Zimmerman's response, but we do know the results. Also, the neighborhood watch has filed multiple complaints about Zimmer's overzealousness with previous incidents in the neighborhood. Finally, in the end, we also have a witness who reported that Martin was running away and screaming for help.
How is it self-defense if the victim is running away and screaming for help? This is murder, plain and simple.
I'm telling you, even if we believe Martin assaulted Zimmerman, he pulled out his gun. If this happened, and Martin was running away, you don't chase him down and shoot him.
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IMHO Title: Official Outpost Greeter
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Registered: 2001-11-1 03:55:02
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Ardenwolfe posted:
Z-Elder posted:
The HOA sets the rules for this community. Zimmerman is basically their guard. He followed a new kid in the area. If that kid turned on him...
We know from eye witnesses that Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following him. We don't know Zimmerman's response, but we do know the results. Also, the neighborhood watch has filed multiple complaints about Zimmer's overzealousness with previous incidents in the neighborhood. Finally, in the end, we also have witness who reported that Martin was running away and screaming for help.
How is it self-defense if the victim is running away and screaming for help? This murder, plain and simple.
I'm telling you, even if we believe Martin assaulted Zimmerman, he pulled out his gun. If this happened, and Martin was running away, you don't chase him down and shoot him.
Never happened.
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
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I think you can pretty much throw out all the eyewitness testimony. The fact that there are such huge discrepancies in it tells me that that either the whole town is high or they're lying. I mean it's not unusual for one person to recall seeing a red car and someone else remembers it being a blue car, but when one person says it's a red car and someone else says it was a motherfucking pteradactyl, someone's not on the level.
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Ardenwolfe Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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According to the police report, it did. In fact, the responding officer told the witness that he heard Zimmerman was screaming for help. The witness stated, "No, it was that kid."
That's around the time the police tried to cover their missteps. That's according to one witness. The other witness, the girlfriend who Martin was talking to over the phone, told his girlfriend, "There's some guy following me around." He then says to Zimmerman, "What do you want?"
The line goes dead after this. Luckily, the girlfriend saved this recording. You can find all this online.
Regardless, Zimmerman should've been arrested and held for trial. It's completely ridiculous this has yet to happen given that a murder took place.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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It was dark and rainy and it happened quickly. Eyewitness testimony is pretty worthless in that situation unless you've got a really convincing witness.
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Ardenwolfe Title: All Knowing Grammar Police
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Registered: 2002-12-11 14:47:24
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Excuse me, but you know that eye witness testimonies usually make or break most court convictions, right?
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Date Posted:
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Trayvon Martin was punching Zimmerman in the head |
ZigmundZag posted:
I think you can pretty much throw out all the eyewitness testimony. The fact that there are such huge discrepancies in it tells me that that either the whole town is high or they're lying. I mean it's not unusual for one person to recall seeing a red car and someone else remembers it being a blue car, but when one person says it's a red car and someone else says it was a motherfucking pteradactyl, someone's not on the level.
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