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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Mastara posted:

Oh scratch that I seen what you said. Of course by rational, you mean people that would compromise with you in your belief of what is actually being said in the book. So basically a wishy washy Christian that stands on shaky knowledge of the word. Its not rational, its just a discussion of people who dont know the word



Rational meaning people who are able to discuss the evidence rather than irrational, meaning people like you.


You argue as if you know 'the word', but your 'word' has been massaged and worked over by competing theologies, ideologies and politics for thousands of years and what you read today and believe wholeheartedly as fixed and immutable has in fact never been either.

 

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Halloweve  2 stars
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I'm thankful we are each free to believe what we think is the truth.


For those that do believe in God, please read this as advice from the word.


http://www.esvbible.org/2+Timothy+2.14-19/
Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Halloweve posted:

I'm thankful we are each free to believe what we think is the truth.

For those that do believe in The Blood God, please read this as advice from the word.

http://www.esvbible.org/2+Timothy+2.14-19/



fixed for reality..

 

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Mastara  4 stars
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Halloweve I have to agree with you. The word and the believer speak for themselves. God knows who are his as does the believer. Thank you


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Manegarm  4 stars
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Mastara posted:

Halloweve I have to agree with you. The word and the believer speak for themselves. God knows who are his as does the believer. Thank you


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So you're ignoring that you worship a genocidal blood god, who could care less about you and yours, while the only real reason for existence is to wither away and hope that when you die and get to join him (yeah right) in the afterlife?

And there is zero proof real proof of this and the proof you have more or less paints your god like a capricious psychotic lunatic, which you put all your trust in..

No wonder he's the Shepard and you're all sheep, being led of to the slaughter.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Kjarhall posted:

ZigmundZag posted:

Allstarslacker posted:

Jesus is an idea.

It doesn't really matter who knew him, or when anything was written. What matters is what you take away from it.

If you find inspiration in the bible, or at church, then stick with it. If not then move on to something else.

I can agree with this.

The problem is that most churches require that they do more than just inspire you in order for you to consider yourself among their flock.



That's because faith isn't the problem, it's organized religion. I believe in God. What i don't believe in is religion. It's based on man and their efforts to control the masses, not God. Everything about the church, synagogue, mosque etc., are manmade constructs designed to control, and to perpetuate the religions growth.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Mastara posted:

Halloweve I have to agree with you. The word and the believer speak for themselves. God knows who are his as does the believer. Thank you


/Thread closed.

The Blood God kills believers and non believers alike. It doesn't matter to the Blood God who you think you are.


Just an FYI

 

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Allstarslacker  3 stars
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Good and evil are constructs of humanity.

In reality there is only one way things can be and that's how they were, how they are and how they will be.

The devil isn't a person. It is the side of us we hate. It is the bad we do and the guilt we carry.

The same is true of God. It is the side of us we love. Is is the good we do and the love we feel.

Too often we try to go to war with the side of us we hate, but that is pointless. Who are you going to fight?

If you want to make the world a better place follow the commandments of Jesus.

Love your God and love your neighbor.
Manegarm  4 stars
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Allstarslacker posted:

Good and evil are constructs of humanity.

In reality there is only one way things can be and that's how they were, how they are and how they will be.

The devil isn't a person. It's the side of us we hate. It is the bad we do and the guilt we carry.

The same is true of God. It is the side of us we love. Is is the good we do and the love we feel.

Too often we try to go to war with the side of us we hate, but that is pointless. Who are you going to fight?

If you want to make the world a better place follow the commandments of Jesus.

Love your God and love your neighbor.



Well God is just a construct of humanity, show me any proof that says otherwise?

God is obviously not benevolent love, if you read the bible he's obviously a psychotic dick, hell bent on kicking the legs off humanity at whichever juncture he feels it's right and with no real explanation what so ever.. He's a child a capricious child playing with ants. It's a good thing that he's in all probability not real.

Why love something that does not exist why not just love each other worry less about some patriarchal divine father figure who will damn you to hell if you don't follow his every contradictory command.

And that's just the Christian god, and what says the Christian god is the right god.. Or the only god?

Love is nice and good and well, but it's all just a evolutionary construct.

 

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Allstarslacker  3 stars
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I agree.

God is a construct of humanity. Just like justice. Or beauty. Or any other feelings and fantasies we have as people.

He or she or it can be anything people want or nothing. It doesn't matter.

If you want a God pick one or make your own. If you don't then don't.

You can't stop anyone from doing it just like they can't make you do it.

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