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What snapped me out of being a Christian. [Locked] |
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Most of the reasons not to believe don't make sense either. People try and cover up their real reasons for losing faith with more sensible ones. People that believe do the same.
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Elocism Title: Pseudonym
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One
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ZigmundZag posted:
Allstarslacker posted:
Jesus is an idea.
It doesn't really matter who knew him, or when anything was written. What matters is what you take away from it.
If you find inspiration in the bible, or at church, then stick with it. If not then move on to something else.
I can agree with this.
The problem is that most churches require that they do more than just inspire you in order for you to consider yourself among their flock.
That's because faith isn't the problem, it's organized religion. I believe in God. What i don't believe in is religion. It's based on man and their efforts to control the masses, not God. Everything about the church, synagogue, mosque etc., are manmade constructs designed to control, and to perpetuate the religions growth.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
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Voodoo-Dahl posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
Most of the reasons not to believe don't make sense either. People try and cover up their real reasons for losing faith with more sensible ones. People that believe do the same.

A lot of people base their rejection of God on all sorts of things that don't really make sense. This is obviously true because if God truly doesn't exist the only logical reason to reject God is lack of evidence. People rarely actually reject God based on lack of evidence. Instead they react to what they are told about God and the people telling them about God. Then they justify their position based on the logical reason, ie lack of evidence.
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Kjarhall posted:
That's because faith isn't the problem, it's organized religion. I believe in God. What i don't believe in is religion. It's based on man and their efforts to control the masses, not God. Everything about the church, synagogue, mosque etc., are manmade constructs designed to control, and to perpetuate the religions growth.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
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Job ended it for me. Here is this guy who loves god and is a good man....so god kills his family, destroys his life, makes him suffer agony, both physical and mental, just to see how much this Job guy really loves him.
Eff that. If this dude actually exists, he is an abusive prick and I totally don't want to like him, let alone love him. Then you start reading all the other crap, like telling some dude to kill his son, and salting the earth and killing babies.....then the ultimate sadistic crap, human freaking sacrifice. Here I'll have this really good dude be murdered in a horrible and painful fashion....now love me or burn in fire forever!1!
WTF? This guy is like a drunk, wife beating, child molesting, murdering asshole. EFF that^3. I'd rather lick dog pee out of a syphilitic whores ass than worship this guy.
I was about 13 when I had this little series of thoughts, took me a few more years to come to the same conclusion about the other religions I looked at....then I just figured that if all these people, billions and billions of them, all loved these total dicks, religion wasn't so much a way of finding peace and love as it was a way to deal with the fact that peace and love aren't very common.
Figured I would just cut out the middle man and go straight to the source, the entire universe is filled with idiots and I'm one of them, but at least I'm not slobbing on some imaginary super powerful assholes knob in the process.
This is pretty much my actual thought process as a kid. I've tried the religion thing a few times since then, checked it out to see if any of them had some new kind of justification for all the evil crap their 'loving father' did back in the day.....never found any. I know some really good people who are very religious. Good for them, I don't bust on them or rain on their parade. Whatever gets you thru the night, I'm happy you have it.
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Mastara Posts: 1,446
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Your wrong ptilk. God didn't kill him family, satan did. You have to read the story. God allowed the suffering and once it was done and he still didn't curse God and confess his sin (that he hadn't committed yet his friends said he did because why else would God judge someone so harshly). Once the trial was over he was blessed even more and given 2 or 3 times what he had before. Your view is merely from a human standpoint. Your looking at death as if death is the end and there is nothing after. While God can see the beginning, present, end (of life) and after. Was it horrible, yes, but it was not God that did it. It was satan, and his punishment is waiting at the appointed time, as well as his angels and those who do not believe.
Its more than just a sad story. And at the time he didn't understand but after he did. He questioned God about things that were way above his understanding and God answered. Read this story if you want the whole thing you probably wont as most here woudn't but here it is:
http://ebible.org/kjv/Job.htm
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Mastara Posts: 1,446
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Neither did the lord command human sacrifice. Your speaking of Abraham and again this was a test. The lord wanted to see if Abraham trusted God with everything, even his only son (which is familiar because he also offered his only son and he went all the way to death) before he committed the act of sacrificing his son he was commanded not to harm a hair on his head. Again your not understanding the reason. Which isn't uncommon from people who won't study the scriptures but will draw conclusions for the story within without understanding the reasoning first.
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If God can't stop Satan I'm. Going to worship him.instead he's a harass.
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
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I understand just fine. They had a contest, god said, "you can't make my bestest friend squeal". So he let the devil murder the guys family and torment him. Then god paid off Job by giving him a new wife and kids. Yeah, that's really a great deal. Just replace my loved ones that were murdered for your game with some new people and hell, I'm better off than ever, screw those other kids and my first wife was sorta fat anyway. Ummm....yeah, that's the actions of a asshole gang leader, not a deity I'm going to love.
Kill your kid. KILLL HIIIM! Hey, just kidding! You got punked! Why so sad? I didn't let you actually kill the little bastard, I just made you go thru horrible anguish and got to see if you really loved me enough to murder your own kid. If you didn't you were going to hell, if you did, I got to know you loved my benevolent and wonderful self. Congrats you won. Stop crying sheesh. Hey, at least I didn't do you like Job.
Here is my kid, he was only born to be murdered in anguish. Yeah, good kid, but kill his ass so I can do something or other with his blood and stuff and that way you wont have to kill your chickens anymore. Hey, it's a good deal for you. More chickens, now KILLL HIIIIM!
As I said, total asshole. In his own words and deeds. Study all you want, your god is an insane, sadistic, jerk.
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