The timeline.... All my life I had thought Jesus was born, wise men spread his tale, he was a magical wise man who attracted followers who wrote the New Testament.


What really happened was
Jesus was born.
Jesus died.
Some guy who never met Jesus started telling stories about him 40 years after Jesus's death.
This guy's stories became the basis for the Gospels written by other people who NEVER MET JESUS.

And the clincher, the bastards assembled it backwards in the Bible! Paul's letters went out DOZENS of years before the Gospels which got stuck in there first. It's deceptive.

I think Paul might have been a great deceiver.

 

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So what your saying is that he was the only person who said anything about Jesus? My question for you is, why did the apostles not speak out against him? Why did they approve of him and his works knowing full well who he was? Why did paul correct peter on a few occasions and was not shunned as a nonbeliever?

 

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What ended it for me was when my minister said that no one could love anyone until they loved God first. He said it with exactly the same conviction that he said everything else.

I knew my dad didn't believe in God but I knew that he loved me. That's when I knew my minister was a liar. I was 12 and I never went to church again. What was the point of listening to a liar. I was an atheist by 16.

 

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That is pretty funny because Paul, you know the guy in the Bible, was converting a lot of Greeks who had similar questions about their relatives who were not Christian. Paul's stance was basically that God was in the hearts of everyone so their relatives were all good.


I would run away from bad theology too.

 

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After being "born again" in High School, I started to have my doubts that a loving God would create a world where the only path to salvation was through Him, yet that path was quite obviously closed to so many people in the world. So within a few months of my religious experience, I said a quiet prayer and basically told God that I had to find my own path to wisdom, and if that meant I would be cast into hell so be it. I didn't really become an agnostic until I started attending a UU church many years later (which is actually permitted within their creed).

 

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The Nazarenes were not Christians. Paul correcting Peter? Peter, who knew Jesus, did shun Paul and disowned him for suggesting Jesus rejected the Torah. Jesus's friends thought Paul was a liar for suggesting that Jesus started Paul's new religion.

 

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Sad as it sounds the gate is narrow that leads to life and few there are that find it, but the gate is broad the leads to destruction and many go through it. Everyone has a choice.

But you left to "find your own path to wisdom"? As if wisdom will do you any real good. What good is wisdom going to do for you? Especially since in the bible it says pretty plainly, "I (God) will destroy the wisdom of the wise and the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate".

Here is a good read for the whole peter and paul issue: http://bible.org/seriespage/peter%E2%80%99s-capitulation-and-paul%E2%80%99s-correction-galatians-211-21

 

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Only my son and I are the same person, otherwise we cannot call our religion "monotheism." GET IT???

 

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I get it, but that doesn't disprove anything at all.

 

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