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It's funny, after the first hundred you'd think these threads would cease to perform...but they still get fucking results.
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-Snatch- posted:
It's funny, after the first hundred you'd think these threads would cease to perform...but they still get fucking results.
Creatures of habit, bruh..
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It's funny, after the first hundred you'd think these threads would cease to perform...but they still get fucking results.
Our existence is interesting.
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ozkar123 Title: Wabbit UCM'er
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Acid233 posted:
FWH-Techumseh posted:
Vodka_Tonic posted:
If you believe in christian values that is one thing, if you believe there is a god who has a plan for you that is another.
There are an estimated 200 billion stars in our galaxy alone. There are an estimated 100 billion galaxies in the known universe. That leaves to speculation of how many stars there are in the known universe at around 100 sextillion stars (that is a trillion billion stars).
The Hubble Telescope suggests that there are more stars in the known universe than there are grains of sand on every beach on earth.
I ruled out god as the creator/regulator/ruler of the universe a long time ago. I have faith in myself and the choices I make.
Ref your pic:
Have you ever heard of the book Science of God by Gerald Schroeder? It may not have any influence on you but I bet it would make you think twice about your theory on whether or not God exists. Thoughts of the Universe and creation have changed many times. Hell, until 1959 scientists believed the universe was finite and eternal. Since then they've discovered that it indeed had a beginning (creation) and that it continues to expand. Many cultures believe it began somewhere
Since the universe is expanding, a day at the exact point of creation would be millions of years from Earth. Several days would be billions of years later. Even Battlestar Galactica mentioned that concept in season 4; last episode. Einstein (an atheist) taught the world that time is relative. That in regions of high velocity or high gravity time actually passes more slowly relative to regions of lower gravity or lower velocity. (One system relative to another, hence the name, the laws of relativity.) This is now proven fact. Time actually stretches out. Were ever you are time is normal for you because your biology is part of that local system.
As for the notion that life on earth was just a lucky coincidence check out what Stephen Hawkin says:
"The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers (i.e. the constants of physics) seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life". "For example," Hawking writes, "if the electric charge of the electron had been only slightly different, stars would have been unable to burn hydrogen and helium, or else they would not have exploded. It seems clear that there are relatively few ranges of values for the numbers (for the constants) that would allow for development of any form of intelligent life. Most sets of values would give rise to universes that, although they might be very beautiful, would contain no one able to wonder at that beauty."
Lets see what is more plausible?
A flying spaghetti man in the sky that created everything or everything just happened by coincidence after billions of years of fucking nothingness.
Common sense dictates coincidence since their are trillions upon trillions of planets. Obviously one of these is going to harbor life. It is statistics. Not only should their be at least one intelligent species but their should be millions upon millions around the universe.
You have to extremely naive and self centered if you actually believe humans are the only intelligent species in the universe. Mathematically speaking this notion is absurdity at its finest and literally impossible to be true.
Like one of you said, some of the most mathematical and smartest people in history have faith in a higher being.
Sadly, all of you aren't making up any new arguments. Everyone, mostly double A spout shit they read on an atheist message board or heard in church. Maybe you all should think for yourselves.
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ozkar123 posted:
Acid233 posted:
FWH-Techumseh posted:
Vodka_Tonic posted:
If you believe in christian values that is one thing, if you believe there is a god who has a plan for you that is another.
There are an estimated 200 billion stars in our galaxy alone. There are an estimated 100 billion galaxies in the known universe. That leaves to speculation of how many stars there are in the known universe at around 100 sextillion stars (that is a trillion billion stars).
The Hubble Telescope suggests that there are more stars in the known universe than there are grains of sand on every beach on earth.
I ruled out god as the creator/regulator/ruler of the universe a long time ago. I have faith in myself and the choices I make.
Ref your pic:
Have you ever heard of the book Science of God by Gerald Schroeder? It may not have any influence on you but I bet it would make you think twice about your theory on whether or not God exists. Thoughts of the Universe and creation have changed many times. Hell, until 1959 scientists believed the universe was finite and eternal. Since then they've discovered that it indeed had a beginning (creation) and that it continues to expand. Many cultures believe it began somewhere
Since the universe is expanding, a day at the exact point of creation would be millions of years from Earth. Several days would be billions of years later. Even Battlestar Galactica mentioned that concept in season 4; last episode. Einstein (an atheist) taught the world that time is relative. That in regions of high velocity or high gravity time actually passes more slowly relative to regions of lower gravity or lower velocity. (One system relative to another, hence the name, the laws of relativity.) This is now proven fact. Time actually stretches out. Were ever you are time is normal for you because your biology is part of that local system.
As for the notion that life on earth was just a lucky coincidence check out what Stephen Hawkin says:
"The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers (i.e. the constants of physics) seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life". "For example," Hawking writes, "if the electric charge of the electron had been only slightly different, stars would have been unable to burn hydrogen and helium, or else they would not have exploded. It seems clear that there are relatively few ranges of values for the numbers (for the constants) that would allow for development of any form of intelligent life. Most sets of values would give rise to universes that, although they might be very beautiful, would contain no one able to wonder at that beauty."
Lets see what is more plausible?
A flying spaghetti man in the sky that created everything or everything just happened by coincidence after billions of years of fucking nothingness.
Common sense dictates coincidence since their are trillions upon trillions of planets. Obviously one of these is going to harbor life. It is statistics. Not only should their be at least one intelligent species but their should be millions upon millions around the universe.
You have to extremely naive and self centered if you actually believe humans are the only intelligent species in the universe. Mathematically speaking this notion is absurdity at its finest and literally impossible to be true.
Like one of you said, some of the most mathematical and smartest people in history have faith in a higher being.
Sadly, all of you aren't making up any new arguments. Everyone, mostly double A spout shit they read on an atheist message board or heard in church. Maybe you all should think for yourselves.
This wasn't an argument to begin with.
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azv4 Posts: 107
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Anyone who claims to know 100% one way or another is stupid in the head.
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azv4 posted:
Anyone who claims to know 100% one way or another is stupid in the head.
I think anyone who claims that coffee does not taste like barbecue sauce is stupid in the head..
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Acid233 posted:
How was I being a judgmental prick? I was merely stating the same basic things you were stating but in a different way to demonstrate how absurd you sounded. If I am a judgmental prick then you sir are one as well. The truth is simple. We both have no clue how we came to be and will most likely never know.
Ah you were pointing out how absurd I sounded? I wasn't the one making the replies which you quoted.
It shouldn't be hard to respect a man who is attempting to have a civil discussion, and say 'your hypothetical god' instead of a passe dork-term like 'flying spaghetti monster'. Take the high road and argue on his level if hes trying to have a legitimate discussion rather than the typical hurdur forum fare.
In short no problem with the message, just the delivery.
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Krugwulf posted:
Acid233 posted:
How was I being a judgmental prick? I was merely stating the same basic things you were stating but in a different way to demonstrate how absurd you sounded. If I am a judgmental prick then you sir are one as well. The truth is simple. We both have no clue how we came to be and will most likely never know.
Ah you were pointing out how absurd I sounded? I wasn't the one making the replies which you quoted.
It shouldn't be hard to respect a man who is attempting to have a civil discussion, and say 'your hypothetical god' instead of a passe dork-term like 'flying spaghetti monster'. Take the high road and argue on his level if hes trying to have a legitimate discussion rather than the typical hurdur forum fare.
Listen up guy, I took some law classes. You are wrong.
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Krugwulf posted:
Acid233 posted:
How was I being a judgmental prick? I was merely stating the same basic things you were stating but in a different way to demonstrate how absurd you sounded. If I am a judgmental prick then you sir are one as well. The truth is simple. We both have no clue how we came to be and will most likely never know.
Ah you were pointing out how absurd I sounded? I wasn't the one making the replies which you quoted.
It shouldn't be hard to respect a man who is attempting to have a civil discussion, and say 'your hypothetical god' instead of a passe dork-term like 'flying spaghetti monster'. Take the high road and argue on his level if hes trying to have a legitimate discussion rather than the typical hurdur forum fare.
In short no problem with the message, just the delivery.
couldnt even finish reading Krugwolf's message.. Possible reasons.. 1.) it's chalk-full of tom-douchery
2.) I'm high as fuck
3.) I'm high as fuck
4.) I'm high as fuck
5.) I'm high as fuck
etc. so forth and so on
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