Yeah I gotta start paying attention to class so I'm out. Peace.

Class on evolutionary biology too, lulz.

 

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My money is on Apollo

 

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Ref your pic:


Have you ever heard of the book Science of God by Gerald Schroeder? It may not have any influence on you but I bet it would make you think twice about your theory on whether or not God exists. Thoughts of the Universe and creation have changed many times. Hell, until 1959 scientists believed the universe was finite and eternal. Since then they've discovered that it indeed had a beginning (creation) and that it continues to expand. Many cultures believe it began somewhere


Since the universe is expanding, a day at the exact point of creation would be millions of years from Earth. Several days would be billions of years later. Even Battlestar Galactica mentioned that concept in season 4; last episode. Einstein (an atheist) taught the world that time is relative. That in regions of high velocity or high gravity time actually passes more slowly relative to regions of lower gravity or lower velocity. (One system relative to another, hence the name, the laws of relativity.) This is now proven fact. Time actually stretches out. Were ever you are time is normal for you because your biology is part of that local system.


As for the notion that life on earth was just a lucky coincidence check out what Stephen Hawkin says:


"The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers (i.e. the constants of physics) seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life". "For example," Hawking writes, "if the electric charge of the electron had been only slightly different, stars would have been unable to burn hydrogen and helium, or else they would not have exploded. It seems clear that there are relatively few ranges of values for the numbers (for the constants) that would allow for development of any form of intelligent life. Most sets of values would give rise to universes that, although they might be very beautiful, would contain no one able to wonder at that beauty."

Are you serious with the unlucky poor people comment?

 

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so annoying when people make statuses like that

 

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I wanna do my part by fucking some nuns.

Lets see what is more plausible?

A flying spaghetti man in the sky that created everything or everything just happened by coincidence after billions of years of fucking nothingness.

Common sense dictates coincidence since their are trillions upon trillions of planets. Obviously one of these is going to harbor life. It is statistics. Not only should their be at least one intelligent species but their should be millions upon millions around the universe.

You have to extremely naive and self centered if you actually believe humans are the only intelligent species in the universe. Mathematically speaking this notion is absurdity at its finest and literally impossible to be true.

 

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First, let me say that I doubt seriously that anyone would be saved by a thread on a message board. I think Christians make a mistake by trying to argue someone into accepting Christ. It never really works that way. You started this thread to start a debate and that's all I'm doing.


Stephen Hawking believes in the Laws of Nature. He doesn't believe in God. The Bible and other ancient religious texts point to the fact that God created those Laws of Nature. I don't believe that God intervenes as much as people would expect Him to. For the most part He has set everything in place and lets most things work themselves out. The Ocean cleans itself. The soil replenishes itself with dead leaves so that plants can continue to grow. Doctors admit that they very rarely heal people. Rather they help put the body back in a healthy state so that it can continue to heal itself.


Why doesn't He intervene often enough? Free will is one reason. But also I believe He wanted those who would inherit life everlasting (and all the angelic powers that go with it) to be trusted not to abuse those powers. Like a third of the Angels (Aliens to us?) who revolted and had to be banished from the Heavens (other planets?).


The Apostle Paul chastised Christians for complaining too much about their miseries. He said to them "do you not know that you will come to be rulers of world(s)?" Worlds is plural. Meaning there would be other planets that can sustain life. Such as Kepler 22b perhaps? One thing about God is that He is intent on appearing Just to all. Bibically, this world belongs to Satan (Devil, Lucifer, etc) until God has come to a point where evil is just too unbearable and He believes that there are probably no more people that will accept the Gift of Life. So then He will allow His Son to return and kick some ass.


That's my 2 cents on the matter.

I'm glad you mentioned this. No I have not read that book, although it sounds very interesting and I'll definitely have to read up on it. Yes, science is always changing indefinitely. There is always new evidence being discovered to support theories and claims in science. As for God and Religion, there really isn't evidence being discovered that explains in basic terms "our existence".

As for time, that is a subject in itself. Time is a term we've created to explain duration in which events occur. According to Einstein's general theory of relativity, during an event horizon in space, space is basically bent. If someone were to observe the point of no return into a black hole time would literally slow down infinitely. To the observer you would see the object slowly getting closer to the black hole. It would appear this way infinitely, but in reality that object would already be broken down and gravity would have engulfed that object. Like you said, because the universe is expanding, space is expanding, and time is stretched out over an infinite number of light years. It may be impossible for us too see the creation point of the universe.

Now I don't want to dwell too far into this subject because it will lead to science fiction. If we could bend space and time ourselves then theoretically we could travel from point A to point B through a wormhole and reach the far ends of the universe.

Yes we can marvel at the wonder of the universe and study the intricate substances that make up matter. Will the beauty we see in everything around us make me question the existence of god?

Simply no. Only because I believe the idea of God is something humans created in their most primitive being to cope with our unexplainable existence.

 

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